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The Ordeal Of Matthew Starkweather

Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:35 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:35 am
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Matt Starkweather’s 50-month-long ordeal by prosecution continues to mock the ever more vague concept of “justice.”

Starkweather, 36, is a member of the Battle Creek, Michigan chapter of the Iron Coffins Motorcycle Club. In the wee small hours of New Year’s Day 2012 he fell into an argument, during a party at the clubhouse, with former chapter president Lee J. “Leeroy” Taylor – allegedly over $2,500 that Taylor owed Starkweather. The men came to blows twice.. The first time Starkweather prevailed. The second time, Taylor emerged from a bathroom with a baton and a knife. He knocked Starkweather down and stabbed him in the neck. Two other chapter members, John Lindahl III and Mario “Paco” Barroso beat Taylor with the butt of a shotgun until he rolled off Starkweather.

Taylor soon died. Starkweather called the police and was arrested for murder. In the coming weeks Lindahl and Barroso were also arrested. The case was both maudlin and banal but it was a motorcycle club case and motorcycle club cases glow. Homicide is homicide as iron is iron but motorcycle club cases glow as hot iron glows. Biker homicides and hot metal are both special cases and that seems to explain the continuing legal crusade against Starkweather.

Barroso agreed to testify against both Starkweather and Lindahl in return for leniency but his testimony was disappointing and the charges against all three men were dismissed.


But this was only the beginning...

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Four months later a new prosecutor named David Gilbert was elected. He craved the heat in the case and in December 2014 he reopened it. He charged Barroso in March 2015 and charged him with murder. Even a blind man could see that Barroso was really being punished for failing to testify cogently enough to convict Starkweather and Lindahl. Gilbert’s argument was that Barroso was a murderer because he handed Lindahl the shotgun Lindahl used to beat Taylor off Starkweather as Taylor was stabbing Starkweather in the neck. Apparently the 67-year-old Barroso had a lawyer but he still agreed to plead no contest to a charge of manslaughter and last year he was sentenced to serve between 71 and 180 months in prison.

Starkweather was charged with murder again in October 2015. He had already spent more than six months in jail after he was charged the first time. He knew in advance that he would be charged again and did not try to flee. But he was still sent back to jail when he was rearrested, labeled a “flight risk” and denied bail again.


There's a lot more to the story you can find here.... ( LINK)
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:40 am to
Um, based upon what you posted, all of them need to spend some significant time locked up.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:41 am to
Poor Paco
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:41 am to
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In the wee small hours of New Year’s Day


Amateur hour.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:42 am to
Sounds like a murderer being whiny about being prosecuted for murder and blaming it on unfair discrimination against bikers. Wow what a "travesty."
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:44 am to
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Um, based upon what you posted, all of them need to spend some significant time locked up.


So if someone knocks you down and starts stabbing you in the neck you'll just lay there and accept that you're about to die. Got it
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:45 am to
Why was Starkweather, the guy who was beaten and stabbed in the neck, charged with murder?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:46 am to
Tl:dr
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:47 am to
Thug life gonna thug life a-hole. This guy was in a gang, period. He knew the risks, he interacted again with a fellow whom he had beaten before, and he resulted to deadly force in the face of deadly force.

Don't want murder charges? Don't fricking go back into the same situation that caused a problem before.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:47 am to
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Why was Starkweather, the guy who was beaten and stabbed in the neck, charged with murder?



Now that's a great question. Almost as good as why he's spent so much time in jail without even being tried. Last time I checked we are supposed to sill have this thing called the right to a speedy trial.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 11:48 am
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:49 am to
And what they don't tell you in that story is that his PD has likely asked for several continuances.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:49 am to
So you're upset a fricking murderer is being prosecuted?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:49 am to
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Why was Starkweather, the guy who was beaten and stabbed in the neck, charged with murder?


Because our CJ system is fricked up beyond repair
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:50 am to
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Thug life gonna thug life a-hole. This guy was in a gang, period. He knew the risks, he interacted again with a fellow whom he had beaten before, and he resulted to deadly force in the face of deadly force. Don't want murder charges? Don't fricking go back into the same situation that caused a problem before.
It's people like this that allow us to lose some of the liberties we once had. Think Patriot Act.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112644 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:51 am to
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So you're upset a fricking murderer is being prosecuted?
I didn't read the entire thing, was there more to the story to implicate the dude that was stabbed?
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:51 am to
No, because he was in a gang that resorted to violence, on multiple occasions.

That story seems about as slanted as it could be, which most of them usually are. I highly doubt this fella is as innocent as the story makes him out to be. Again, he was in a gang.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:52 am to
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And what they don't tell you in that story is that his PD has likely asked for several continuances.



And how long should they be able to drag this out?

BTW, from the article....

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Hallacy ordered a special prosecutor, a man named Victor Fitz, appointed to the case. By then, Starkweather had spent 349 days in jail and Hallacy order the accused man to be released to confinement at his parents’ home. At the time Judge Hallacy said that indefinite detention without bail was something that “happens in third world countries. This is the United States.”



Would you consider sitting in jail for right at a year without ever being brought to trial or even given bail reasonable to you?
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:52 am to
Nope. I'm as anti Patriot Act as they can get. There is no loss of Liberty here, it's a loss of common sense.

I can go wherever the hell I want, but I don't associate with gangs and resort to violence, though.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:53 am to
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So you're upset a fricking murderer is being prosecuted?


I'll ask you the same thing I asked the other guy. If someone knocks you down and starts stabbing you in the neck, are you just going to lay there and accept you're about to die?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297500 posts
Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:54 am to
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No, because he was in a gang that resorted to violence, on multiple occasions.

That story seems about as slanted as it could be, which most of them usually are. I highly doubt this fella is as innocent as the story makes him out to be. Again, he was in a gang


This is the type of response I expected.
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