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re: So We Scored ONE Earned Run This Weekend?

Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:52 am to
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6653 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:52 am to
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guys like Bryce Adams


He didn't even make the trip to A&M so he's way down on CPM's list.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14967 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:53 am to
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I don't think Bryce Adams helps this line up. Romero needs to be in the lineup somehow but I can't justify him catching every day because Pap is that good defensively and hitting enough.

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geauxtigers33


Kid is hitting 250 and just let at least 9/11 runners steal on his this past weekend. He's a huge hole in a lineup filled with holes, and you think his defensive prowess somehow justifies that?

Let him catch Lange. WIth the amount of benders he snaps off, I can justify that. But we need HITTING and Romero is >>>>>>> Pap is. No offense to the kid but ball don't lie. Mainieri thought Pap would start last year before Scivicque-a kid Ronnie Rantz had to help LSU figure out was a good baseball player-proved he was awesome.

Now it's apparent he still hasn't improved enough offensively to exist in this lineup as an everyday presence.

The excuse about his defense is weak, weak sauce and the lack of ability to throw out ANYONE on the base paths totally defeats the argument. Again, give him a day when Lange's out there and DH Romero that day.

But not putting a confident, accomplished hitter like Romero in there is indefensible at this point.
Posted by chipdouglas96
C-Town
Member since Jun 2011
895 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 9:57 am to
Especially since we are deficient at run scoring. It's not like we are losing because of past balls or we are kicking the ball all over the place. We aren't producing enough runs.
He Paul....Time to put one of your best hitters in the everyday lineup
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:25 am to
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9/11 runners steal on his this past weekend. He's a huge hole in a lineup filled with holes, and you think his defensive prowess somehow justifies that?



Stolen bases are not always on the catcher. being a catcher is more about blocking and receiving and handling a pitching staff than throwing out runners. The best catchers only throw out runners at about a 20 to 30 percent clip. Coming into this weekend Pap was throwing out around 50 percent fwiw. I am willing to bet the A&M coaches saw something in the pitchers more than somethings they saw in Pap. Also a catcher that is good defensively batting .250 is not bad at all. That is an average of a hit a game at a defensive position.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14967 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:33 am to
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geauxtigers33
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Stolen bases are not always on the catcher. being a catcher is more about blocking and receiving and handling a pitching staff than throwing out runners. The best catchers only throw out runners at about a 20 to 30 percent clip. Coming into this weekend Pap was throwing out around 50 percent fwiw. I am willing to bet the A&M coaches saw something in the pitchers more than somethings they saw in Pap. Also a catcher that is good defensively batting .250 is not bad at all. That is an average of a hit a game at a defensive position.


So we can't do any worse throwing out base runners than we did with Pap. Glad you didn't argue there, though it's kinda sad you blamed other kids before Pap. It is what it is though. I'm sure it's every pitcher's fault before Pap. Glad you are here to set us straight.

We need production. This is an offensively challenged lineup. You need kids who can hit, and whether Pap is an average hitter for a catcher or below average as a hitter in general, Romero is much, much, much better hitting by comparison.

There's no argument you can make that makes .300 or > hitting average somehow not as good as .250. Mathematics is simply not on your side. It is cute to watch you blame half a dozen other kids and us being outcoached before admitting there's a great big forest out there you're ignoring because of your love for the Papierski tree.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:43 am to
I don't live any individual players at LSU. I am pointing out that majority of stolen bases in the entire game of baseball at every level is on the pitcher and there are other things more important to the position of catcher than throwing out base runners. Half of what they do goes unnoticed by people watching on tv or in the stands. A lot of strikes are called by the catcher properly receiving them. I think Romero is a good player and should be in the line up but he is not as good as Pap defensively and that's not arguable. You have a team that struggles to score runs you have to look at a way to get offense in the lineup but you still can't sacrifice defense.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7441 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 11:06 am to
if you think its so easy get out from behind your keyboard and go see if you can make the team
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5193 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 12:53 pm to
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So We Replaced Every Position Player But One, And I Think We Should Have Swept A Top 5 Team On Their Home Field By 10 Runs A Game Even Though It's Only The Second SEC Series Of The Year, But We Didn't So I Am Going To Be A Whinebag.


FIFY
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14967 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 3:21 pm to
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I don't live any individual players at LSU. I am pointing out that majority of stolen bases in the entire game of baseball at every level is on the pitcher and there are other things more important to the position of catcher than throwing out base runners. Half of what they do goes unnoticed by people watching on tv or in the stands. A lot of strikes are called by the catcher properly receiving them. I think Romero is a good player and should be in the line up but he is not as good as Pap defensively and that's not arguable. You have a team that struggles to score runs you have to look at a way to get offense in the lineup but you still can't sacrifice defense.
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geauxtigers33


Crazy how little it was done last year with so much continuity on the pitching staff for LSU. Considering the only real change has been behind the plate. I'm sure it all the pitcher's faults though like you made it clear earlier.

Besides, we need defense and strikes more than runs. It's incredibly clear. Right?
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 3:21 pm
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11950 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 3:22 pm to
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So We Scored ONE Earned Run This Weekend?


This reminded me of Major League:

"All we got was one goddamed hit?"
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127260 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:22 pm to
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just let at least 9/11 runners steal on his (sic) this past weekend
Not correct.
Posted by arn
Member since Nov 2015
562 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 8:28 pm to
Link?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16660 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 11:52 pm to
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LSU outhit them in 2 of 3 games. Even with the lopsided first game, the total hits on the weekend were within 1 of each other. This was on the road with a very young team. Things need to improve, but it's closer than you think.


Great point.

If our pitching can hold opponents to say 3 runs/game (realistic?), it allows CPM to shape his offense around scoring a run here-n-there as opposed to getting into a track meet which this team is not geared to do (at present).

I thought everyone except Bugg pitched pretty good this weekend.

Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23583 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:17 am to
LSU earned Saturday, but lost the series to the better team. Nothing wrong with that. They'll probably take the home series against them.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:12 am to
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I was looking for the silver lining in the series loss, and I thought I found it with all the runners we left on base, then the reality of the fact that it appears we scored ONE earned run in three games hit me


I understand your disappointment but the underlying fact that we are getting hits (got as much as the aggies) is really the key stat. imo, hits with RISP will come around. hell, it can't get any worse. when this happens, we'll win some games. I still think we have a legit shot at a regional but will have to get red hot to host one.
Posted by St Jean The Baptiste
Laredo, TX
Member since Aug 2015
5828 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:14 am to
The Friday night game was about a gutsy of a performance you could ask for.

If you didn't watch the series, don't talk shite.

Posted by rcocke2
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
1690 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 11:56 am to
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Or, you know, the guy who's actually proven to hit well in the clutch and hit some for power... Romero... 1 plate appearance.


This guy needs to be in the lineup.
Posted by LSU_Stros
Member since Feb 2016
160 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 12:02 pm to
Romero does need to be in the lineup hitting but the arguments about the defensive prowess of pap v Romero is useless. The rest of the team sucks at hitting. Scored one earned run. Yeah Kramer got jipped out of a hit and earned run but it doesn't matter, because that's still only 2 fricking runs in a whole weekend series.

Just need to cheer these kids on the rest of the year and celebrate the good when it happens. This is actually team that can use the we are young argument , at least for offense.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2180 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 12:36 pm to
I was seriously disappointed that we didn't see him get more ABs.
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