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re: Bell's Brewing Hates LSU
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:34 pm to Jax-Tiger
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:34 pm to Jax-Tiger
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If they get fresh product and let it sit in a warehouse somewhere while waiting for the shelf turds to move, then I blame the distributor
This is pretty much what I understand to be happening.
ATL,
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Imperial IPAs age well?
ehhhhhhhhhh, pretty much drink fresh. There are very few IPAs that will get the recommendation for aging.
ETA: But most importantly, drink what you like, how you like it. You're not wrong. You just might be different
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:39 pm to Matisyeezy
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receive old arse product and then it just turds away because nobody wants old arse IPAs. Except for Martini, I guess
Like my IPA's like I like my women. Kinda old and smelly.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 8:52 pm to Martini
Damn,i cant wait for 2 month old THA to start showing up.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:03 pm to Geaux2Hell
F'real talk... 2 month old Tha is still really good. 3 months and on is when I'd be suspect.
Any word on if y'all will get Black Note? Imo that beer is better than BCBS, KBS, et all. Jmo
Any word on if y'all will get Black Note? Imo that beer is better than BCBS, KBS, et all. Jmo
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:05 pm to Dannunzio
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Black Note? Imo that beer is better than BCBS, KBS, et all.
Great beer. I hope so.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:06 pm to Dannunzio
The link in the OP says distribution will start in May and they are bringing their entire portfolio.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:46 pm to Matisyeezy
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ehhhhhhhhhh, pretty much drink fresh. There are very few IPAs that will get the recommendation for aging.
Got it. One last question. Why are people buying up Ghost and storing it? Other than Martini I mean.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:52 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Why are people buying up Ghost and storing it?
People are buying Ghost to drink and to trade, not to store.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:54 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Why are people buying up Ghost and storing it?
You'd have to ask them
Generally speaking, some are buying it in excess because they plan on trading it. The hot commodity right now is hops from the Northeast, so people are trying to flip it for that. Some are buying a bunch of it because they drink a few bottles a week and will sip on it for a month, maaaaaybe two. Some buy a bunch and will drink about 8 bottles in a night (I'm looking at you, No8 ).
There are a few guys that actually keep a few bottles hidden away to taste side-by-side with the next batch, or because they just want to drink a really malty Double IPA next year just to say they have. I don't really understand that approach, but if it makes'em happy
Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:59 pm to Matisyeezy
this is a bit of a random question, and maybe a stupid one, but why are beers (especially ones as popular as Bell's) not just distributed across more states?
Bell's isn't a particularly small brewery and their beers have been offered here in Alabama for a while. Why not distribute it to more surrounding states?
Bell's isn't a particularly small brewery and their beers have been offered here in Alabama for a while. Why not distribute it to more surrounding states?
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:03 pm to Kim Jong Ir
I've seen posts where they talk about storing. That's what made me wonder about it.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:07 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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I've seen posts where they talk about storing.
I don't know anybody that intentionally stores/ages Ghost. DIPAs like Ghost are made to drink fresh.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:12 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Or is it because CCD is just that bad?
CCD is apparently great in New Orleans. Everyone there raves about their service. It's my belief that these out of state breweries are focused on New Orleans and see the service CCD provides there and chooses them based on that.
Unfortunately, CCD treats the rest of the state like a red headed step child. If it's not Abita, Coors, PBR or Red Bull, forget about getting fresh product, particularly new releases. That's my biggest beef. New releases are just sitting in a warehouse shelf turding before they bother sending it to the rest of the state. Out of state brewers send their beer to one central warehouse, which is then theoretically moved to the local warehouses for distribution to the retailers. A brand new warehouse in BR opened last summer. It was supposed to be the distribution hub for the entire state, since it's more centrally located. Brewers like Stone, Oskar Blues, Lagunitas, Sierra Nevada, etc. are still sending their shipments to the New Orleans warehouse. So that's the first fail. Then the New Orleans warehouse is supposed to send a transfer truck with all that stuff on it for the BR market once a week. There are a lot of times when those new releases don't make it onto that transfer truck. Instead of correcting the problem, they just wait until next weeks transfer, when the product may or may not make it on the truck. Then it sits in the warehouse.
CCD also doesn't have a designated craft beer specialist to represent those breweries. Instead, everyone is theoretically representing all the portfolio. So Joe Blow Delivery Truck Driver who doesn't know an IPA from the IRS doesn't give a rat's arse if Stone Enjoy By bottles don't make it up here. He'll just bring them next week. Or not.
Hell, even when the local breweries send beer directly to the CCD BR warehouse, it sits. Great Raft send bottles of At Arms Length to the BR CCD warehouse on Friday. They've yet to hit shelves here. On the other hand, Parish sent the latest batch of Ghost to Mockler today. Calandro's already got it and sold through their 8 case allotment. Everyone else will have theirs tomorrow. Meanwhile, Great Raft's beer is still waiting to be delivered.
But don't take my word for all this. Ask the 2 managers of beer deparments and beer bars who expressed their disappointment in CCD getting the Bell's distribution who posted in this thread. I know they have even better stories. I've got a bunch of them from people just like them who manage beer at the retail level.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:15 pm to Gnar Cat21
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but why are beers (especially ones as popular as Bell's) not just distributed across more states?
A ton of issues. Supply. Cost. Distributors. Legal permits. The system of distribution is generally unfriendly in this country, and each state has its own system that has to be navigated as well. Distribution is more complex than it probably should be, which slows expansion for almost everyone. Even breweries as large as Bell's.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:19 pm to Matisyeezy
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Distribution is more complex than it probably should be
true true. Hell, Alabama outlawed any beer that was above a certain ABV until like 2008, yet you could buy a handle of liquor on sunday no problem
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:21 pm to BMoney
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I've got a bunch of them from people just like them who manage beer at the retail level.
Are you guys going up the chain of command to CCD's ownership? I would be telling them how you are buying Mockler products instead of CCD, because you know they will be fresh. They may not do anything about it, but then again, maybe they will... Can't hurt.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:25 pm to Matisyeezy
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each state has its own system that has to be navigated
I'm not sure what the restrictions are in Oregon. I know that brewers trade kegs with other brewers. We get a lot of out-of-state beers that aren't even distributed here, because a taproom owner might be friends with a brewer from out of state and that brewer will send a few kegs. Seems to be very lax. I don't understand how anybody can look at the stupid laws and think they are good for the state. Takes a lot of rationalizing to do that...
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:27 pm to Jax-Tiger
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I'm not sure what the restrictions are in Oregon. I know that brewers trade kegs with other brewers. We get a lot of out-of-state beers that aren't even distributed here, because a taproom owner might be friends with a brewer from out of state and that brewer will send a few kegs. Seems to be very lax. I don't understand how anybody can look at the stupid laws and think they are good for the state. Takes a lot of rationalizing to do that...
Please. If LA had the same distro laws as Oregon we would be a state full of day drinking drunks like y'all.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:30 pm to Matisyeezy
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If LA had the same distro laws as Oregon we would be a state full of day drinking drunks like y'all.
Louisianans drink a lot more beer than Oregonians. We just drink better beer.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 10:31 pm
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