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re: Those of you "fans" who are so anti-everything LSU football need a reality check

Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:47 am to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:47 am to
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Altair


Please ignore this guy. He's not an LSU fan.
Posted by winnoworelse
Good Ole Louisiana Bayou
Member since Jun 2004
2769 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:50 am to
It must really suck to be a UNO fan.
Posted by crobe18
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2011
518 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:50 am to
Good old Ballcaster. Criticizing LSU fans when he has never contributed one penny to LSU athletics outside of buying a t shirt. Many boosters and season ticket holders will be forgoing extra payments outside of season ticket and TAF fees next year because of the crap that happened two weeks ago. There is your reality check. SO, I guess that since they will not be giving a little extra this coming year they are anti-LSU too.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:52 am to
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i think you're the jerk that came on here (an LSU board) and made fun of my post. LOL
Watch any tv in the 1990's?
Posted by winnoworelse
Good Ole Louisiana Bayou
Member since Jun 2004
2769 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:53 am to
Get a life dude. Go read up and follow St. John's sports if they have any.
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 9:55 am
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10112 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:53 am to
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The majority of the athletic higher ups were willing to pay the man a ton of money to leave.
Actually a split was reportedly part of the problem. A majority vote might have got 'er done.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:53 am to
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Can't have it both ways.

You people love pretending you call the shots.
Posted by BayouENGR
Seagrove Beach
Member since Nov 2015
2375 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:55 am to
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We had the best coach of a generation here and we lost him to a bitter rival.

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Bertman should have realized what he had and threw the bank at him to keep him at LSU.


Wouldn't have worked...Saban got the big head at LSU and was movin' on up no matter what. Then after failing in the NFL, he slunk back to the SEC to try to out-do Bear Bryant. Jerk (Saban, not you semjase)
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 9:59 am
Posted by Andre
Cashier at Stein's Deli
Member since Apr 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:02 am to
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Can't have it both ways.

You people love pretending you call the shots.


what does this even mean? he was absolutely 100% correct.

after the LSU-bama game, everyone kept saying that LSU simply cant keep up with Bama's depth, which is directly related to their consistent recruiting at a high level.

so now OceanMan wants to say that LSU, having the 4th best 4 year recruiting average in all of FBS, should not rely on recruiting rankings because they are largely arbitrary and irrelevant...despite the fact that the teams ranked #1, #2 and #3 in the 4 year 'crootin rankings are the last 3 NC winners.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20050 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:03 am to
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right, so Alabama's consistent acquisition of top talent is largely overrated.


I'm not really sure what you are trying to prove here. Yes, recruiting rankings have an influence on how well a team performs, but it is not exactly how I would handicap a certain matchup given: improper evaluations, injuries, transfers, filling positions of need, early draft departures, development, etc. No team after us on that list has had the success we have had in the past 4 years, the differences maybe marginal for some.

Further, if you go strictly by your formula, then yes, Alabama has the highest chance of winning every game, and we have had to play them every year. So we can agree that our "expecation" how you defined it, can include one loss per year.

Our coach is on the hot seat too, so we fundamentally disagree with that.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20050 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:07 am to
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A common excuse for defending Miles and explaining the losses to Bama and their usual competing for championships is their recruiting prowess. Can't have it both ways.


What? Maybe you didn't read what I said, but I said I don't predict wins on recruiting rankings, and you shouldn't either. Alabama has had its success for more easons than just recruiting.

In other words, I wasn't defending anyone, I was arguing a point being made.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20050 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:09 am to
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Yes I'm sure you know that for sure I guess you were in the meetings with the president and AD. people.


No, I'm just a human with an average level of perception and reasoning.
Posted by Andre
Cashier at Stein's Deli
Member since Apr 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:10 am to
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Further, if you go strictly by your formula, then yes, Alabama has the highest chance of winning every game, and we have had to play them every year. So we can agree that our "expecation" how you defined it, can include one loss per year.


right, I agree.

except LSU has had more than one loss in every year since 2011. sooooo, its not just a "Bama problem" (my personal favorite accusation of those who feel some of us have set the expectations too high).

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Our coach is on the hot seat too, so we fundamentally disagree with that.


eh, sure?? I mean, I do agree that how this year went down was largely dumb, since just about everyone predicted 9-3 and had LSU slated to finish no higher than 3rd. but now after all the fanfare and the overwhelming outpouring of support from the fans, I am not so sure LSU fires Miles next season.

having said all that, its pretty apparent Les' boss wants him gone, so its possible that Les explores other options at the end of next season.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20050 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:12 am to
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It must really suck to be a UNO fan.



Yes, you have now made that joke twice, and it is very clever. If I could, I would switch that damn emblem so you couldn't burn me anymore, but since that is impossible, I will just leave it there and hope nobody else notices.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20050 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:13 am to
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i think you're the jerk that came on here (an LSU board) and made fun of my post. LOL
Watch any tv in the 1990's?



Or any syndicated television for the past 20 years?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81789 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:25 am to
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Then ignore the "bitch" threads
That means ignoring The Rant.

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But what else can we as fans do when we're unhappy with the state of the program? We bitch and moan but in the end we will still be there cheering.
Stop pretending like if you win this message board battle, you will get all you want. It's idiotic.

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The only substantive thing a fan can do is quit supporting the team financially.
Yup.

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Of course, every time someone here says they'll do that, people like you sneer at them and calm them bad fans, etc.
frick you.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20050 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:27 am to
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except LSU has had more than one loss in every year since 2011. sooooo, its not just a "Bama problem" (my personal favorite accusation of those who feel some of us have set the expectations too high).



Well, so has Bama (they have lost 1.5 games/year since 2012). So if you handicap the very best with 1.5 losses to start...we don't have to go down that road, because the only point I am making is that these rankings don't predict success in an individual matchup, which is what you originally asserted.

But the point still stands, if you think recruiting rankings predict wins and losses, we lose every year to Bama, and will therefore never win another division title, or any other title, because of that loss.

Again, I'm just not sure what point you are trying to make here. If it is that recruiting rankings have given us 3/4 national champions in the top 3 (I forget what you posted above), and therefore an accurate predictor of success and LSU should win a NC, then you are ignoring the mutually exclusive event that LSU has to play Alabama, only one can win, and will therefore never be successful according to your own logic.

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"Bama problem"


I am only using this in an illustration to your point. You are the one that is suggesting an objective measure of predicting football games, not me.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56848 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:28 am to
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Those of you "fans" who are so anti-everything LSU football need a reality check



I agree with this but for a different reason than you posted.

The pendulum has swung way too far. Most of the negativity is just people being lemmings and being unable to think for themselves.

Obviously, there are issues that need to be addressed. And, sure, there is a valid concern as to whether or not they will be addressed.

Having said that, the program AS IT IS RIGHT NOW can will big and win championships. It's not a guarantee (it never is). Perhaps we aren't maximizing our opportunities (most don't). But, it's down right laughable to see how off the bandwagon this board has become.

This is a cesspool of fandom.
Posted by winnoworelse
Good Ole Louisiana Bayou
Member since Jun 2004
2769 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:30 am to
This guy... How many championships have they won since then? it would be nice just to win an sec championship.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20050 posts
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:33 am to
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This guy... How many championships have they won since then? it would be nice just to win an sec championship.



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