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re: Proposed and Conceptual Interstate Corridors in Louisiana
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:00 pm to NoBoBullDog
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:00 pm to NoBoBullDog
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you would be an excellent spokesman for the city's housing authority. You should be happy though, the city has built brand new public housing (which will be crap in 20 years) blocking the propsed route of the ICC. Yay
There were some shady players and contracts supposedly involved with this. It was a terrible misuse of public dollars at best. Shreveport needs economic revival and expansion more than new government projects for people who contribute very few tax dollars.
While we are at it we should go back to the old shantytowns that were located downtown before the parkway was extended. Surely those were a better use of the land that a thoroughfare.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:03 pm to BayouNation
Well by the looks of that map, someone has got about 147 years worth of feasibility studies at a cost of a few billion dollars ahead of them.
I'd be shocked if Louisiana came up with a plan and the money to fix the roads we have now. I ain't holding my breath for any of this pie in the sky.
I'd be shocked if Louisiana came up with a plan and the money to fix the roads we have now. I ain't holding my breath for any of this pie in the sky.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:03 pm to TigerDog83
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. Shreveport needs economic revival and expansion
I completely agree
building an interstate through town is not going to do that though, but as seen by cities that have made the mistake before, only create more blight and kill those areas
you're way of thinking has been debunked
we can view what other cities did 20-30 years ago and see the mistakes they made
I have no idea why Shreveport is determined to make those same mistakes
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:05 pm to Salmon
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the 20 that cuts through just south of downtown and the part of 49 that cuts through north of Bert Kouns...yes, those have caused blight in those areas and this cannot really be argued
I can't tell if that stretch of 49 caused the street grid to be taken over, or if they built streets around it. (Don't know much about the history of SP, but I am assuming the former). I think at this point, it would be hard to rebuild the grid based on the development along the interstate, but I could be wrong.
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I have no idea why Shreveport is determined to make those same mistakes
Because that is how things are done in LA. No one thinks ahead. Look at BTR and the Prarieville/Denham Springs suburbs. They are growing like crazy, but are destined to make the same mistakes the 'planners' in BTR made.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:07 pm to BayouNation
This sign would not last the night:
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:08 pm to Salmon
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Shreveport is fighting right now about the I-49 connection about whether to loop it or cut it right next to downtown
Well aren't they just stopping it anyway and connecting it with I-220?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:12 pm to TigerRob20
The best thing that could happen is if somehow Stoner Hill and Highland could be revitalized. That would provide a good corridor from downtown all the way to the SE portion of the city where the most wealth lies. The hospitals that are acting as non-profits (Willis Knighton especially) would be served well by taking a lead in some of these areas since they have to spend their money somewhere as it is. It will take some more serious changes in government and taxes before problems plaguing inner city neighborhoods will be solved. A great deal of Allendale supports the 49 connector already. The small group of millennials who want what Salmon is advocating are going to be disappointed when the whole city slides further into decline while everybody is worried about building more insider deal housing projects.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:13 pm to Salmon
I think you ignored my post...I'm very interested in your response.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:13 pm to TigerDog83
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The best thing that could happen is if somehow Stoner Hill and Highland could be revitalized.
already happening
now why couldn't this happen to Allendale in the future?
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The small group of millennials who want what Salmon is advocating are going to be disappointed when the whole city slides further into decline while everybody is worried about building more insider deal housing projects.
this is just so incredibly shortsighted
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:16 pm to Salmon
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now why couldn't this happen to Allendale in the future?
Where is the population going to come from? Do you think SE Shreveport is suddenly going to pack up and decide to relocate to Allendale? Highland and Stoner Hill are struggling and I would love to hear what you see as the revitalization currently ongoing. I wish Shreveport had the downtown/midtown of a Dallas, Houston, etc. but the realities of the economic situation here might not ever allow that. Commerce has to come first here along with better government and improved rates of taxation or there will be close to nobody here to argue this in 30 years.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:19 pm to TigerDog83
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Where is the population going to come from? Do you think SE Shreveport is suddenly going to pack up and decide to relocate to Allendale?
my generation and the generations behind me will continually move more towards the inner city instead of outwardly towards the burbs like past generations
its happening in every city everywhere else, Shreveport is just always 20 years behind
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Highland and Stoner Hill are struggling and I would love to hear what you see as the revitalization currently ongoing.
Stoner is behind but Highland is definitely growing
Highland is the hipster neighborhood of Shreveport
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:31 pm to Salmon
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Stoner is behind but Highland is definitely growing
Yeah, growing in crime. Areas that were safe only 15-20 years ago are awful now. Stoner is a great example of choice real estate that could be so much more. Highland is the same as it has been for years with more houses falling into disrepair. I see what you are advocating and I'm in your generation I just don't think the government here will ever allow taxation and policies to facilitate what could be. The interstate is an easy short term boost to the economy at the expense of a handful of residents remaining in a blighted Allendale. I could even see Shreveport going the St. George route and having separate towns at some point versus re-establishing downtown growth.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:34 pm to TigerDog83
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I just don't think the government here will ever allow taxation and policies to facilitate what could be. The interstate is an easy short term boost to the economy at the expense of a handful of residents remaining in a blighted Allendale. I could even see Shreveport going the St. George route and having separate towns at some point versus re-establishing downtown growth.
I mean...I agree with all of this
I find it all incredibly sad and will probably force me to move eventually if this is how Shreveport remains
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:37 pm to Salmon
Hey Salmon, got any recommendations on running trails in Shreveport? Will be there for work, and figured you may know something cool near downtown.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:39 pm to TigerRob20
trails near downtown?
well there is a running path along the parkway that is nice, and there used to be trails in the woods next to Stoner Landing along the Clyde Fant, but I'm sure the floods this spring destroyed all of those and I don't know if they have been rebuilt
your best bet is to just run on the bike path along the parkway
if you don't mind driving, drive to Eddie Jones State Park and run the monkey trails, although that is about 45 mine drive
I think there are some trails near Cross Lake, but I never ran up there
well there is a running path along the parkway that is nice, and there used to be trails in the woods next to Stoner Landing along the Clyde Fant, but I'm sure the floods this spring destroyed all of those and I don't know if they have been rebuilt
your best bet is to just run on the bike path along the parkway
if you don't mind driving, drive to Eddie Jones State Park and run the monkey trails, although that is about 45 mine drive
I think there are some trails near Cross Lake, but I never ran up there
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:42 pm to Salmon
Was the entire trail along Clyde Fant destroyed? It looks like a lot of it would have been underwater.
Are there any bad areas of downtown where I shouldn't venture?
/hijack
Are there any bad areas of downtown where I shouldn't venture?
/hijack
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:43 pm to TigerRob20
it was all underwater, but I think most of the paved trail is still good and has been fixed at least
the dirt trail inside the woods was most assuredly wiped out and I'm not sure if it has been rebuilt
the dirt trail inside the woods was most assuredly wiped out and I'm not sure if it has been rebuilt
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:44 pm to TigerRob20
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Are there any bad areas of downtown where I shouldn't venture?
I don't think so
downtown is pretty well established...just don't venture west of downtown
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:46 pm to Salmon
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downtown is pretty well established...just don't venture west of downtown
Wouldn't it be nice if I could?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:05 pm to Salmon
Whoa man, I thought that parkways & modern infrastructure were bad for the city?!?
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