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re: Death penalty question/ lack of death drug solutions for lethal injection.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:00 am to Count Chocula
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:00 am to Count Chocula
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seemed to have no effect on the Iraqi bad guys when they misjudged the drop on Saddam's brother and he was decapitated.
If you saw the sharp angle with Saddam, they were close to having too much drop on his, as well.
Of course, the Nazis at Nuremberg all got a short rope when the hangman "miscalculated" - denied by the Army, but the death photos seem to support unconfirmed reports that they took 14 to 28 minutes.
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:02 am to Count Chocula
had to look, yikes.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:02 am to Ace Midnight
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Nazis at Nuremberg
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but the death photos seem to support unconfirmed reports that they took 14 to 28 minutes.
In the Nuremberg Nazis hangings, it should have taken twice that long for them to expire.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:03 am to Napoleon
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had to look, yikes.
Took 1 and a half coffins to bury that dude.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:03 am to Napoleon
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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:13 am to Napoleon
They should use carbon monoxide somehow. Strap em down and put on some kind of mask and pump straight CM to the face. They go to sleep and never wake up.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:13 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Rope. It's simple and cheap.
I like the public hanging idea.
I like the public hanging idea.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:15 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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I'm with Ace on this.
Someone has to be the killer with every form of death penalty.
I know what you are saying and get it 100%, but with the firing squad there is an added stigma that is always there.
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In some cases, one or more members of the firing squad may be issued a weapon containing a blank cartridge instead of one housing a live round. No member of the firing squad is told beforehand if she/he is using live ammunition. This is believed to reinforce the sense of diffusion of responsibility among the firing squad members, making the execution process more reliable. It also allows each member of the firing squad to believe afterward that he did not personally fire a fatal shot—for this reason, it is sometimes referred to as the "conscience round".
However, according to a Private W. A. Quinton, who served in the British Army during the First World War and had the experience of being in a firing squad in October 1915, he and eleven colleagues were relieved of any live ammunition and their own rifles, before being issued with replacement weapons. The firing squad was then given a short speech by an officer before they fired a volley at the condemned man. He said about the episode, "I had the satisfaction of knowing that as soon as I fired, the absence of any recoil, [indicated] that I had merely fired a blank cartridge".
In more recent times, such as in the execution of Ronnie Lee Gardner in the American state of Utah in the United States in 2010, a rifleman may be given a "dummy" cartridge containing wax instead of a bullet, which provides a more realistic recoil.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:17 am to Simpkjo
quote:Make transport vans that vent the exhaust into the back of the van. (have the driver's cabin fully sealed separately) Tell them they are being transported.
They should use carbon monoxide somehow. Strap em down and put on some kind of mask and pump straight CM to the face. They go to sleep and never wake up.
Then drop the bodies off at the Crematorium.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:42 am to Napoleon
kind of off subject and kind of not. What do they do with the bodies after the death penalty? Does the state dispose of it or do they let the next of kin deal with it?
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:55 am to Warfarer
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Does the state dispose of it or do they let the next of kin deal with it?
Family can have it if they chose. But many people that are executed have no money (if they had money they wouldn't be on death row) and are buried in a cardboard box in prison cemeteries.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:59 am to Napoleon
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Make transport vans that vent the exhaust into the back of the van. (have the driver's cabin fully sealed separately) Tell them they are being transported.
Then drop the bodies off at the Crematorium.
I'm against the death penalty for a number of reasons but I think nitrogen asphyxiation would actually be painless, cheap, reliable way to execute someone. In fact in April 2015, the Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin signed a bill authorizing nitrogen asphyxiation as a secondary form of execution.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:02 pm to tlsu15
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The death penalty is a barbaric form of "justice" that needs to die out. The government shouldn't have the ability to kill its own people. Plain and simple.
Then let the victims or the families of victims get their justice. Turn the guilty party over to the families and let them dispose of the scum in the way they see fit.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:04 pm to Napoleon
Hypoxia
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:26 pm to dr smartass phd
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Hypoxia
This is another intriguing alternative. In research experiments on the effects of hypoxia on flight crews (mainly flight surgeon stuff, but there a lot of interesting videos out there) - there seems to be an unawareness of what is happening, a euphoria that strongly mimics intoxication - and from outward appearances (and after discussions with participants) seems to be a relatively humane and pleasant (if such a thing is possible) way to be executed .
Although, I really don't want to make it pleasant, it certainly refutes arguments that any form of execution must be, per se, cruel and unusual.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:29 pm to WPBTiger
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Should bring back firing squad and/or hangings.
And do it in public for everyone to see
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:37 pm to fr33manator
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Then let the victims or the families of victims get their justice. Turn the guilty party over to the families and let them dispose of the scum in the way they see fit.
I just can't endorse state sanctioned "justice" where there are way too many LEO and prosecutors out to make a name for themselves, and these executions become stepping stones in their careers.
For anyone to be in favor of the death penalty is to be in favor of the deaths of at least a small amount of innocent people.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:38 pm to shawnlsu
As far as meds go, the answer is euthasol and just about every vet in the U.S. Has a big bottle of it. There is nothing more effective than barbiturates.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:43 pm to sleepytime
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As far as meds go, the answer is euthasol and just about every vet in the U.S. Has a big bottle of it. There is nothing more effective than barbiturates.
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sleepytime
gallows humor I know...
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