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re: Successfully fighting BS speeding ticket?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:52 pm to FalseProphet
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:52 pm to FalseProphet
Once the papers get word of this, it's gonna taint the jury pool. They may have to move the trial out of state.
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:54 pm to LucasP
When he has his trial and drops the "ish", the prosecutor is going to have a field day adding those perjury charges.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:55 pm to CMBears1259
I honestly am thinking about getting one of those GPS devices that constantly records video. You could at least "estimate" speed by using the video. Could also come in handy in other situations.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:55 pm to LucasP
If they ever get this guy on the stand, he'll be confessing to the Lindbergh kidnapping and masterminding 9/11.
He should settle.
He should settle.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:55 pm to FalseProphet
No doubt. That ish is going to be his bloody glove moment. It's just a shame they won't allow cameras in the courtroom, this kind of real life drama would be something to see.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:56 pm to CMBears1259
I fought a ticket once and won because I got a little lucky in court.
I got a ticket for 60 in a 35. I went to court and and to the judge I flat denied that I was doing 60. The judge turned to the cop and the cop said, "yeah you were the guy on the Honda motorcycle!". I replied, "no, I was the guy in the Honda Prelude."
The judge looked at my registration, handed it back to me and said, "you're dismissed."
I got a ticket for 60 in a 35. I went to court and and to the judge I flat denied that I was doing 60. The judge turned to the cop and the cop said, "yeah you were the guy on the Honda motorcycle!". I replied, "no, I was the guy in the Honda Prelude."
The judge looked at my registration, handed it back to me and said, "you're dismissed."
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:58 pm to GumboPot
How fast were you actually going?
(remember, you are under oath, its in the TOS)
(remember, you are under oath, its in the TOS)
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:00 pm to VetteGuy
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ETA: I believe the judge just wanted to get through the cases. He seemed rushed. So that also worked in my favor.
ETA: I believe the judge just wanted to get through the cases. He seemed rushed. So that also worked in my favor.
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:07 pm to CMBears1259
The best chance you have is to try to get your court date moved back. Also try to get it on a day of the week that is different than the one the officer puts down or the one you are given. The officer will obviously put his normal day of the week for court. If you get it on a different week day then he probably won't show up. Some courts are always on the same day; some aren't. If he doesn't show up, they will throw it out.
Research this for more understanding.
You could also research to see if the officer calibrated his radar gun. They often skip their monthly calibration. If the officer doesn't have calibration certification, you can also get the ticket thrown out. All calibration information is supposed to be available to the public.
Research this for more understanding.
You could also research to see if the officer calibrated his radar gun. They often skip their monthly calibration. If the officer doesn't have calibration certification, you can also get the ticket thrown out. All calibration information is supposed to be available to the public.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:19 pm to CMBears1259
I have actually beat several. If I don't think I was doing that speed I fight it. Simple as that.
I have received tickets that I paid and didn't think twice about. If I wasn't speeding it gets fought.
Most people don't fight them and they count on that. File a discovery motion and get all the info you can about the officers training, gun calibration, Speed detection device user manual and so on.
If you have to go to court know the equipment better than the officer. Make him look bad on the stand. Ask questions like " What percentage of speed detections are false". If he says "none" you can quote the manual. If he says "10%" or something like that you can ask how he knew that your reading was correct. You can crush his credibility.
Get Creative!
My last ticket was on I-10 at Bluebonnet. In a construction zone. LA-32:63 was the law I "broke" it states the LA DOTD can set the speed limit if they have completed a traffic study. I called the DOTD and asked for the study. They didn't have one because the engineering company doing the construction work had all the engineering data. I called the DOTD sign shop and asked who put up the speed limit signs. Turns out the construction company did it themselves with nothing official telling them to do it.
Guess what? They don't have the legal authority to do that. On top of that the state police set up a speed trap to catch people violating a lower speed limit that didn't exist.
So legally the speed limit in that zone was 70 although the signs said 50. The DA argued that whatever the sign says is the speed limit no matter who put it there. I said "is the same statement true if I put up one that says 100 MPH"? Charges dismissed, case closed.
I have received tickets that I paid and didn't think twice about. If I wasn't speeding it gets fought.
Most people don't fight them and they count on that. File a discovery motion and get all the info you can about the officers training, gun calibration, Speed detection device user manual and so on.
If you have to go to court know the equipment better than the officer. Make him look bad on the stand. Ask questions like " What percentage of speed detections are false". If he says "none" you can quote the manual. If he says "10%" or something like that you can ask how he knew that your reading was correct. You can crush his credibility.
Get Creative!
My last ticket was on I-10 at Bluebonnet. In a construction zone. LA-32:63 was the law I "broke" it states the LA DOTD can set the speed limit if they have completed a traffic study. I called the DOTD and asked for the study. They didn't have one because the engineering company doing the construction work had all the engineering data. I called the DOTD sign shop and asked who put up the speed limit signs. Turns out the construction company did it themselves with nothing official telling them to do it.
Guess what? They don't have the legal authority to do that. On top of that the state police set up a speed trap to catch people violating a lower speed limit that didn't exist.
So legally the speed limit in that zone was 70 although the signs said 50. The DA argued that whatever the sign says is the speed limit no matter who put it there. I said "is the same statement true if I put up one that says 100 MPH"? Charges dismissed, case closed.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:08 pm to eitek1
What Arcalades said. Continue it as many times as you can. Try to get it to a day when the officer doesn't show up, then seek dismissal. If you try it expect to lose but at the least you can make it a "civics lesson." It is sad but true that in MOST (not all) of these traffic or "police court" situations, even though the burden of proof is on the officer, you are going to be found guilty no matter how flimsy the "proof" is.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:12 pm to CMBears1259
Call up OT lawyer friend and get it fixed. Don't see what the problem is here
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:31 pm to bigberg2000
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Are you sure it was 65? They change you know. If you are sure go take pictures of the sign if you really want to fight it.
It was absolutely 65. I took video/pictures of the signs and area when I drove back through.
And the cruise was set at 67.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:34 pm to retired trucker
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don't you DARE use that language in court
say 67 ,anything but no "ish" !!!!
no fricking ISH !!!!
ok?
Of course I wouldn't use that kind of language in court. I've had to testify in court as part of my job before.
I know to be firm in the court room, the OT is not the court room. Court of public opinion? YES. Court room? No
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:34 pm to CMBears1259
Just go up in there and tell the judge it was Spanky's booze. What's the worst that could happen?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:37 pm to CMBears1259
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And the cruise was set at 67.
Judge, I was speeding, but just not THAT much. That's really going to go over well.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:38 pm to VetteGuy
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Look, I'm with you, but when I set my CC it locks and shows me a set speed.
Are you saying you don't recall the exact speed?
Exact speed was 67.
And not directed specifically at you- but why, if I was speeding and obviously saw the trooper (given I got over as a courtesy)would I not bother to hit the brakes at the alleged 77MPH? And that obviously won't matter in the court room.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:39 pm to CMBears1259
Just pay the fine
Chances you get that thrown out are slim to none
Don't let it ruin your weekend
Chances you get that thrown out are slim to none
Don't let it ruin your weekend
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:39 pm to CMBears1259
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at about
This is atrocious grammar
Posted on 8/21/15 at 2:39 pm to CMBears1259
Same shite happened to me. I'm fighting it all the way. I'll make him justify the ticket, and at the least I think I have a good chance at getting the ticket reduced.
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