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Can Lights - New Construction and LED Question
Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:20 am
Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:20 am
Anyone out there have any experience with 6" recessed lighting?
We are building our new house and the plans call for 58 can lights. Rather than just buy them from the local lighting place (St. Charles Lighting, $32 for the setup which includes the standard 6" can and an LED bulb) we are exploring online and in the big box stores.
Anyone have any recent experience? Also, seems like most of the can light setups today involve an incandescent can with an LED converter. Any experience with these?
We are building our new house and the plans call for 58 can lights. Rather than just buy them from the local lighting place (St. Charles Lighting, $32 for the setup which includes the standard 6" can and an LED bulb) we are exploring online and in the big box stores.
Anyone have any recent experience? Also, seems like most of the can light setups today involve an incandescent can with an LED converter. Any experience with these?
Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:40 am to Rev1897
$32 sounds like a fair price. I know that I paid around $24 for just the LED bulb/trim that I bought at Home Depot (they could have come down over the last 18 months though).
I replaced all of the incandescent recessed lights in my house with those, as well the new can lights we had installed. They are great and put off no heat like the other lights we had.
I replaced all of the incandescent recessed lights in my house with those, as well the new can lights we had installed. They are great and put off no heat like the other lights we had.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:53 am to Rev1897
I just had 2 installed in my house last week. I knew nothing about what I was doing and went to HD and purchased 2 enclosed new construction cans. They were mispriced at $8 each and I was happy.
After further investigation, I realized I should have bought remodel cans and just called an electrician.
If there is a moral to this story (big if), its to go to HD and hope to find the cans for $8 each.
After further investigation, I realized I should have bought remodel cans and just called an electrician.
If there is a moral to this story (big if), its to go to HD and hope to find the cans for $8 each.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:03 am to Ice Cream Sammich
Cree true white series 6" cans $19. They rock
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 9:04 am
Posted on 8/18/15 at 9:59 am to Ice Cream Sammich
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After further investigation, I realized I should have bought remodel cans and just called an electrician.
Those are fairly easy to put in. It is the wiring that can be a pain. I installed 5 in my living room several summers ago. Why I chose July to crawl around in my attic running wire, I still can't recall. But if you have access to do that, the remodel cans are easy to put in. One of these:
A spool of wire, wire strippers, and a screwdriver is all you would need. Took me about 2 hours to do the whole thing.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:28 am to TU Rob
I had Cajun Electric do mine. They used lasers to get everything exact and made sure to make minimal mess. After seeing it done, I could do it now. However, also, for only $150, me not having to get into my attic in July, AND they installed an exterior electrical socket into an overhang, I was happy.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:36 am to Rev1897
I have that same set up in my new construction. Nice white light, long life and looks great.
I went totally led with the exception of 3 chandeliers that I will replace with led if possible.
I hate changing bulbs especially in can lights.
I went totally led with the exception of 3 chandeliers that I will replace with led if possible.
I hate changing bulbs especially in can lights.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:38 am to Ice Cream Sammich
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However, also, for only $150, me not having to get into my attic in July, AND they installed an exterior electrical socket into an overhang, I was happy.
That's a steal. I didn't know a good electrician, other than what I learned from working on older houses growing up, and my dad just helped me. We needed one person in the living room to put the can in, and another in the attic to wire them. Since it was my house, I got in the attic. I know a guy now that I call on from time to time. Last time out, he didn't even charge me. Said just to give him gas money, so I gave him a $20. He's done a good bit of work for us during some remodeling we did, and his prices were pretty fair. This reminds me, I need to give him a call. I have a floodlight that needs the fixture replaced.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:46 am to TU Rob
The wife called and setup the install. I think that she made it out the be a bigger deal on the phone than it turned out to be. Once they got there, he made several comments about how small and easy of a job it was going to be (none were negative, he was just happy to not have to stay in an attic all day).
Eta: for anyone in BR or the surrounding areas, I highly recommend Cajun Electric. We found them on Angies List and they are great people. We ended up having 3 different guys come out to estimate and then later install and all were good people.
Eta: for anyone in BR or the surrounding areas, I highly recommend Cajun Electric. We found them on Angies List and they are great people. We ended up having 3 different guys come out to estimate and then later install and all were good people.
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:43 pm to Rev1897
I just built and had 88 6" cans and went all LED. The thing with LEDs and any light is the CRI value of the bulb if color accuracy matters. A standard incandescent bulb has a 100 value. Most of the LEDs have a 80 value (also CFLs). What that does it washes out the color of everything. I personally dont like it...I like the look of incandescent bulbs. There are some high CRI bulbs that score 93 and looks pretty much like a incandescent bulb. I went with the Feit enhanced LED bulbs BR40 16w and love them! I have run them for almost a year now and only replaced one so far. I got them from earthled.com and paid 5 bucks to cover all the bulbs for 5 years.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 3:15 pm to CAD703X
What color temperature is ideal?
Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:42 pm to Rev1897
As manager of an electrical contractor we have installed 1000s of LED fixtures from recess cans to pole lights over the last 5-10 years or so.
The light, efficiency, and long life is all great. However we have had issues with some fixtures, even the top of the line stuff. One problem I see is the technology is advancing so fast whats out there today will be obsolete tomorrow. alot of the fixtures, and mostly the residential recess cans are not made to be repaired, once it goes out you replace the whole fixture. So 3 years from now when one fixture fails and you can not get an exact replacement when happens when you have 8-10 or more matching cans in the room, and one you cant match. For that reason I think using standard incandescent recess cans with R30 LED replacement lamps may be the way to go.
The light, efficiency, and long life is all great. However we have had issues with some fixtures, even the top of the line stuff. One problem I see is the technology is advancing so fast whats out there today will be obsolete tomorrow. alot of the fixtures, and mostly the residential recess cans are not made to be repaired, once it goes out you replace the whole fixture. So 3 years from now when one fixture fails and you can not get an exact replacement when happens when you have 8-10 or more matching cans in the room, and one you cant match. For that reason I think using standard incandescent recess cans with R30 LED replacement lamps may be the way to go.
Posted on 8/18/15 at 10:39 pm to Kajungee
Thanks. We ordered from Ideal Lighting in Harahan. They were $7 per can for the incandescent plus trim and bulbs.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:21 am to Kajungee
crees have a 20 year warranty and the installation takes all of 30 seconds and because the bulb/housing is all-in-one, they look fricking great.
i cringe now when i'm at a friend's house and they have a different bulb in every can.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:22 am to Ziggy
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What color temperature is ideal?
the tw series from cree is the closest to the 'warm incadescent' light on the market. to my eye they are indistinguishable and so much better than the CFLs its shocking.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:23 am to NOLAGT
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. There are some high CRI bulbs that score 93 and looks pretty much like a incandescent bulb.
thats the score of the cree tw series.
MAKE SURE IT SAYS tw (TRUE WHITE) on the box.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 5:36 am
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:48 am to CAD703X
I had just noticed that when I looked yesterday that's great! When I shopped for my house they were not there yet I think...or they didn't have the right size br40 with enough brightness. Trust me don't get any leds with a lower score it's nots a good look IMO. More like cfl
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:55 am to NOLAGT
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Trust me don't get any leds with a lower score it's nots a good look IMO. More like cfl
agree.
however i did take advantage of those $2.50 bulbs home depot and lowes have had recently for attic, garage, etc.
they'll do for now. i'm just sick of always having this or that bulb burn out.
i swear CFLs burn out faster than the old incadescent.
so far LEDs have not let me down..been a thing of beauty.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 7:02 am
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:59 am to CAD703X
I should have said that...I mean for main lighting. I have the lower cri in some lamps bathrooms garage things like that. I am just about completely led in my house and love it. I forgot exactly but it's like 4-5000 watts less just on my cans. That's a big difference...not that they are all on at once but still. Not to mention how long they should last. Out of my 88 br40s I had one go out recently at just about a year...defect.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 7:18 am to Rev1897
I just put regular cans in and purchased dimmable LED bulbs from Amazon.
Note the difference between dimmable and non-dimmable LED bulbs. The LED bulbs look like regular flood bulbs. Phillips is the brand, IIRC.
Note the difference between dimmable and non-dimmable LED bulbs. The LED bulbs look like regular flood bulbs. Phillips is the brand, IIRC.
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