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re: John Oliver goes after televangelists and prosperity gospel (video link in OP)

Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:32 am to
Posted by VetteGuy
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:32 am to
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quote:21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. 23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Dietrich Bonhoeffer explains this story really well in his book The Cost Of Discipleship. The young rich man knows the commandments, but wants to go beyond them. He asks his question of Jesus out of a piety centered on himself, pretending he is ignorant of the answer. We are called to obedience of God and fellowship with Christ, Jesus answers the young man offering him the opportunity to follow Him. Jesus wants to make sure the young man doesn't see discipleship as the opportunity for an adventure that he could turn away from and head back to his money and old life. Jesus exposes that the mans possessions are literally the thing keeping him from following Jesus, but also that the mans original question about what he must do is based on his desire to feel good about himself rather than truly be obedient to God.


Excellent post and to go a bit further, Jesus was making it clear that you can't buy your way into Heaven.

Ephesians Chapter 2

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Posted by tankyank13
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:52 am to
doing works of the lord certainly can help you to heaven. Bragging about it for self gratification no
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:00 am to
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Excellent post and to go a bit further, Jesus was making it clear that you can't buy your way into Heaven.

Ephesians Chapter 2

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.



that book of the bible is one cited by Martin Luther in his quest against Indulgences and the start of the Lutheran movement.
Posted by The Eric
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 1:01 pm to
I like to compare the story of the rich man not being able to sell his possessions to the story of the man who while working in the field discovered a treasure. He sold everything he had and bought that field.

Jesus wants you to be all in. He wants you to see following him as a treasure worthy of selling everything else so that you can have that treasure.
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