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Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:06 pm to atltiger6487
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But, you see, this is a fan message board. Where fans, you know, give their opinions and stuff
Yeah, I think I get that.
But, you see, this is a subject that, you know, no one here has enough sense to discuss intelligently.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:22 pm to Melvin
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I agree with the lack of wiggle .
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Wiggle is much more important on punt returns than kickoffs. Kick returns are more one cut and go. I think LF's issue was more about patience and picking the right gap.
LF7 is a once in a decade kind of talent, so it is easy to see how our staff wants to get him the ball often. I somewhat agree with Melvin, as I think LF did fine at kick returner and got better as the year went on. He WAS after all a true freshman.
People often lump punt returns and kick returns together in the "return" game, and they are two completely different skill sets. Fielding kicks is MUCH easier than fielding punts. One thing I have always noticed about LF from high school is that he does better when he has a head of steam (ask the TAMU DB!). LF7 was actually a stronger 200m runner than 100m in track. Once that big man gets going, look out! The kick returns typically allow you to get going for 10-15 yards before the defenders approach you.
A special teams coach once told me that a good punt returner is a guy who can stand in the middle of oncoming cars on a freeway and not flinch. As Melvin said, wiggle is probably more important there, as you almost always have to make the first guy miss on your own, and miss quick, as he is usually in your face right as you are catching the punt.
We DO have many players that can help in the return game, there will be some great competition, and despite the posts about recruiting promises, etc., I think the guy you see our staff put back there at the end of the day will be the guy they think gives us the best chance at success.
For the record, I think LF could do ANYTHING he put his mind to doing! He could return punts and kicks, play QB, and probably be an all SEC Linebacker!
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:24 pm to atltiger6487
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He has speed, but not enough wiggle for a return guy.
Since when do u need wiggle to return kicks? Punts yes but not kicks. No dancing on kickoffs. Hit the wedge and pray that it gets blocked up right
Posted on 7/28/15 at 4:56 pm to Dallasgrowl
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But, you see, this is a fan message board. Where fans, you know, give their opinions and stuff
Yeah, I think I get that.
But, you see, this is a subject that, you know, no one here has enough sense to discuss intelligently.
That goes for every discussion on every sport. Maybe only coaches and players should be allowed to post here.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:04 pm to biglego
He should not but he will.
Guice and Jackson should be the guys returning kick offs. Maybe even Tyron Johnson or DJ Chark. Those four can easily do as well or better than LF on KOs.
Long KO return also means LF will need a play or two off in the first offensive series following the KO. I'd rather have Guice, Jackson, Chark, or TJ taking those plays off, personally.
Guice and Jackson should be the guys returning kick offs. Maybe even Tyron Johnson or DJ Chark. Those four can easily do as well or better than LF on KOs.
Long KO return also means LF will need a play or two off in the first offensive series following the KO. I'd rather have Guice, Jackson, Chark, or TJ taking those plays off, personally.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:13 pm to Melvin
who's going to tell fournette he can't?... is the better question
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:29 pm to frog legs
No, there are much better kick returners in the team. Also you want to keep LF fresh, give playing opportunities to others.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:32 pm to frog legs
I'm surprised. There are a lot of reasonable answers in this thread.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 5:41 pm to frog legs
If Fournette gives LSU a meaningful increase of average starting field position over the next best guy, then the answer is a resounding YES.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 6:23 pm to frog legs
Yes he should. Our defense won't give up many points this season. So he won't have many opportunities to return kickoffs.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 6:38 pm to monsterballads
quote:are you saying Miles sack is empty
by monsterballads who's going to tell fournette he can't?... is the better question
Posted on 7/28/15 at 6:42 pm to frog legs
I thought last year that was one of the dumbest coaching decision I've ever seen. Take away the ND return and what do have? Plus you put your load-carrier and potential Heisman guy at risk. Just dumb.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 6:49 pm to atltiger6487
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 6:50 pm to monsterballads
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:20 pm to The Baker
18th in the nation is mediocre? Wow!!
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:28 pm to tigerpawl
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Take away the ND return and what do have?
a 21-31 loss?
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:32 pm to 5Alive
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