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re: Face it Federer is the GOAT
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:32 pm to MusclesofBrussels
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:32 pm to MusclesofBrussels
No just facts sorry you don't understand Go look up Rod Laver and tell me how Fed is better?
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 1:33 pm
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:48 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Federer has won the most grand slam tournament titles (18).
He has reached the most finals (29).
He has reached the most semifinals (42).
He has reached the most quarterfinals (50).
He is the only man to reach each final at least five times.
He has reached the most finals (29).
He has reached the most semifinals (42).
He has reached the most quarterfinals (50).
He is the only man to reach each final at least five times.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:54 pm to Roscoe
Laver has more "majors" 20 if you count the tournaments he won as a pro
200 tournament titles
2 calendar grand slams (one each in amateur and open eras)
6 titles in doubles (3 are mixed)
Laver was barred from playing "Majors" for 6 years in his prime for being a "professional"
200 tournament titles
2 calendar grand slams (one each in amateur and open eras)
6 titles in doubles (3 are mixed)
Laver was barred from playing "Majors" for 6 years in his prime for being a "professional"
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:33 pm to sms151t
quote:So looking at his "major" tournaments, 6 of his majors were before he turned pro, 9 were as a pro, and 5 were in the open era.
Laver has more "majors" 20 if you count the tournaments he won as a pro
Now I'm not a tennis historian, but wouldn't the 15 majors before the open era be a little less impressive since players were split between the amateur and pro and the fields were diluted a bit? If so, then those major should heavy a lower weighting.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:36 pm to buckeye_vol
No because the Majors were only open to amateurs until the Open era. Laver was instrumental in forming the ATP which got players more prize money. Think of it as Laver was a US hoops player pre 1992. Couldn't compete in Olympics but the rest of countries could send their pros to them.
That was biggest reason for his calendar slams being so far apart.
That was biggest reason for his calendar slams being so far apart.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:46 pm to sms151t
quote:Yes, but winning a major was easier if professionals were excluded. And winning one of the "Profesional majors" was also easier because amateurs were excluded, and it looks like the fields were much smaller.
No because the Majors were only open to amateurs until the Open era.
So what I'm saying is that because of the setup, I think it's fair to count the amateur and professional majors. That being said, they should be less heavily weighted than majors in the open era.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 4:47 pm to buckeye_vol
There were no professionals though until the split. The initial pros are what we call champions tour then the top players left to form the ATP
That is the way I always understood the explanation
That is the way I always understood the explanation
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 5:17 pm to goldennugget
Mac said 10 years ago Fed was the GOAT.
So have all the other tennis greats.
Why wouldn't he be?
It's between Fed and Sampras and Fed is a way better all-around player.
(And Nadal is suspect) That Spanish doping system going back to Miguel Indurain.
Pisses me off the Spain is being totally ignored and getting a pass for it's institutionalized doping programs - ala East Germany - while the US is the devil because of Lance.
So have all the other tennis greats.
Why wouldn't he be?
It's between Fed and Sampras and Fed is a way better all-around player.
(And Nadal is suspect) That Spanish doping system going back to Miguel Indurain.
Pisses me off the Spain is being totally ignored and getting a pass for it's institutionalized doping programs - ala East Germany - while the US is the devil because of Lance.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 5:23 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
oh shite just noticed Fed is in another final
what is the begging line on Cilic/Fed?
what is the begging line on Cilic/Fed?
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:06 pm to Roscoe
quote:
Federer has won the most grand slam tournament titles (18).
He has reached the most finals (29).
He has reached the most semifinals (42).
He has reached the most quarterfinals (50).
He is the only man to reach each final at least five times.
and he did all that while mostly overlapping the greatest clay specialist ever
A big chunk of his career he only had 3 majors he could win.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Looking like Cilic +400, Fed -550.
SMS makes good points about Laver. When you rank players, I think you have to focus on open era. Laver is such a special case. He got screwed due to the amateurism thing, but he was also playing three majors on grass. I have no idea about the other great Aussies like Rosewall or prehistoric guys like Tilden and Budge.
SMS makes good points about Laver. When you rank players, I think you have to focus on open era. Laver is such a special case. He got screwed due to the amateurism thing, but he was also playing three majors on grass. I have no idea about the other great Aussies like Rosewall or prehistoric guys like Tilden and Budge.
Posted on 7/14/17 at 6:58 pm to Bunk Moreland
I swear, watching highlights of Federer's match today, he looks as good now as he ever has. He is unbelievable. And I am so thankful to be alive during his reign. We're watching history.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 7/14/17 at 9:32 pm to Bunk Moreland
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This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:13 am to goldennugget
Nadal is a baby back bitch
Posted on 7/15/17 at 1:48 am to mr brightside
no he's not
his body is just breaking down b/c of all the abuse he's put on it
his body is just breaking down b/c of all the abuse he's put on it
Posted on 7/15/17 at 6:57 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
Rafa is four years younger.
And his career will most likely end before Roger's...
Posted on 7/15/17 at 7:53 am to mr brightside
Hopefully they meet at the US Open so Nadal can finish off his career grand slam of beating Roger at every major. 
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:20 am to goldennugget
quote:
Guy continues to win and show that age is only a number
I always think man Federer is doing great considering how old he is...then realize he's 10 months younger than me.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:34 am to goldennugget
Borg.
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