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re: All we need is good QB play right?
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:14 pm to southeasttiger113
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:14 pm to southeasttiger113
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a team is ranked 19th when you play them they're likely there for a reason.
Yeah because and only because of preseason rankings. Only a dumbass would say a 8-5 ( 4-4 in sec ) auburn and 7-6 (3-5 in the sec ) florida are top 25 teams.
Teams are ranked that high because of preseason rankings.
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would claim that final ranking is more telling than current ranking when you play a team
It is more telling how good a team is dumbass. 2000 bama was preseason #3 in the country and finished 3-8. Only an idiot would claim a win over a #3 team that ended up 5 games under .500. It's common knowledge that you use a teams final rankings.
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:16 pm to Powerman
Where can I find the new LSU hype video? I been wanting to watch it but can't seem to find it anywhere
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:20 pm to dukke v
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FACTS are FACTS....Both teams were rated when we played them.
That doesn't mean shite. 2000 bama was preseason #3 and finished 3-8. No one counts that win as a win over the #3 team in the country.
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So I guess the WVA and Miss st. games meant nothing as wel
When did I say that? West VA was the big East and orange bowl champ.
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o should we say those victories over then ranked teams should NOT have helped LSU rise in the polls????? B
Of course you use that DURING THE SEASON.
Let's say you beat the #5 team in week 1 and that team ends up winless, you don't day you beat the #5 team in the country.
A schedule can look brutal in oct but end up being pretty easy. Pretty season 2011 oct looked hard with auhurn and Florida being ranked, but we now know that Auburn would go .500 in the sec and Florida would be 2 games under .500 in the sec.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:22 pm to southeasttiger113
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We're talking about 2011, try to stay on topic big guy. Lee was much improved his senior season and that's what we're looking at. Why don't we start throwing around their high school stats too since that's so relevant?
That's not what he was talking about.
I also proved to you that JJ'S 2011 stats weren't far off from JLee's. Had JJ been allowed to pass as much JLEE their passing totals would be 70 yards apart. In no way is that substantial.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:25 pm to southeasttiger113
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Please quote where I claimed that there was a "huge gap". I said that there's a clear gap, which there is.
No there isn't .7.8 yards per pass and 7.4 yards per pass isn't clear or significant
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Again, this is all based on you assuming that people were actually scared of Jefferson's running ability which they weren
Again you clearly don't know shite about football.
JJ holds the qb rushing record for his career and single season. So stop saying that. FACTS PROVE YOU WRONG. DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN A FACT
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So you're saying that if he would've just gotten more attempts at 7.4 YPA then he would've been better than Lee who had 7.8 Y
No I'm saying it's NOT SUBSTANTIAL. which is what you said.
JLee had 1306 passing yards
If JJ has JLEE'S passing ATTEMPS, he would've had 1235 passing yards. A 70 YARD DIFF. THAT'S NO SUBSTANTIAL
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:30 pm to southeasttiger113
I'm done talking to posters that don't know shite about football.
FACTS prove there wasn't a substantial drop off in our PASSING SUCCESS, only in our passing attempt.
You should probably sstop saying the lsu qb rushing record holder for a season and career, wasn't a running threat because you just sound stupid.
FACTS prove there wasn't a substantial drop off in our PASSING SUCCESS, only in our passing attempt.
You should probably sstop saying the lsu qb rushing record holder for a season and career, wasn't a running threat because you just sound stupid.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 9:34 pm to Powerman
To win a championship we need the following.
1. Our D to dominate
2. A qb to be above average.
3. No key injuries
4. A good bit of luck. Every championship team has to have a crazy play almost every game to swing them past the "close loss".
1. Our D to dominate
2. A qb to be above average.
3. No key injuries
4. A good bit of luck. Every championship team has to have a crazy play almost every game to swing them past the "close loss".
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:Yea man you're the only person on tigerdroppings that knows anything about football. That's why the dumbass who first insinuated that Jefferson was as good as Lee got 2 upvotes and 16 downvotes. All of a sudden you're bragging about how much you know about football when you don't understand the simplest shite and can't grasp that not only did Jefferson have shittier stats, but his pocket presence, demeanor, ability to lead the team, and literally every other intangible were worse than Lee's? Do you even have tickets to LSU games or no? I had the pleasure of sitting right behind the bench and watching Jefferson act like a complete frickhead anytime Lee didn't throw a touchdown pass while Lee supported his teammates from the sidelines. You claim to know so much about football but you can't understand that intangibles are HUGE for a quarterback?
I'm done talking to posters that don't know shite about football.
So let's get this straight, you think that a QB with shittier stats than Lee, no pocket presence, a terrible attitude, behavioral problems, who was obviously cancerous to the team was the better option to hand the reigns to after we went 8-0 with a superior quarterback because he was such a "great" rusher based off of his all time ranking at LSU? The dude averaged 20 YPG with his feet in the 5 games that he started in 2011. And he wasn't fast or agile or particularly athletic. But I guess those 20 yards per game that he picked up on the ground completely offset the fact that Lee was better in 2011 in every other measurable way, you're a football genius all right
Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:11 pm to southeasttiger113
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but his pocket presence, demeanor, ability to lead the team, and literally every other intangible were worse than Lee's?
He will never understand this because ALL he uses is STATS... He doesn't understand that Stats aren't everything.. Just like him saying that beating a ranked team during the season means nothing...And then turns around and say it does matter beating a team that is ranked during the season to help boast a teams ranking... He is very confused and is a total JJ lover...IMO LSU goes 8-5 last year even with JJ starting every game.... Put Lee on last years team and you have 10-2 written all over it.....
Posted on 7/10/15 at 5:15 am to dukke v
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Put Lee on last years team and you have 10-2 written all over it.....
Holy shite.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 5:16 am to southeasttiger113
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Yea man you're the only person on tigerdroppings that knows anything about football.
You clearly don't if you saw JLEE and JJ play and thought there was this substantial Gap between them.
For their careers JJ has the edge in every statistic. In 2011 the only reason JLEE has the edge IS BECAUSE OF PASS ATTEMPS . How many times do I have to say that?
And finally, people that get paid to make lsu football decisions AGREE WITH ME.
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 5:38 am
Posted on 7/10/15 at 5:23 am to dukke v
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derstand that Stats aren't everything.. Just like him saying that beating a ranked team during the season means nothing...And then turns around and say it does matter beating a team that is ranked during the season to help boast a teams ranking... He is very confused and is a total JJ lover...IMO LSU goes 8-5 last year even with JJ starting every game.... Put Lee on last years team and you have 10-2 written all over it.....
Wow. Only an idiot uses ranked team WHEN you played them. I realize why you're doing it. It's to bolster you're ignorant claim that our offense got worse once JJ became the starter. In no way was auburn and Florida some great win in 2011. Nether team had sec record above .500.
But go ahead an be a moron. It's still doesn't change the fact that our Nov offense played a tougher schedule(two top 3 team) than our Oct Off (no ranked teams) AND PUT UP BETTER STATS.
Also I'm not really a big JJ fan. I'm a HUGE LSU FAN. I just have a problem when lsu fans say JJ sucked his entire career at lsu yet he is 5th or 6th in every lsu passing rankings for his career.
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 5:32 am
Posted on 7/10/15 at 6:13 am to Rickdaddy4188
If we don't at least when the SEC, the pumpers will have to go back to their R.E.G. (Random Excuse Generator). If it's not one thing, it's another.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:16 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Wow. Only an idiot uses ranked team WHEN you played them
I guess ALL the coaches and the AP Polls are idiots then... They look at who you beat and if/where they were ranked to determine where to rank a team... BUT I guess LSU should have DROPPED in the polls at the end of 2010 because the games they won during the season were against teams that ended up unranked.... You can't have it both ways dude...........
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:29 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You clearly don't if you saw JLEE and JJ play and thought there was this substantial Gap between them.
Lets see..LSU's record in games LEE started???8-0
Games which JJ started??? 4-1....
FACT...the only STATS THAT MATTER.............
Plus you keep brining up the #2 and # teams that JJ played against...What about the PADDED stats he got by playing a Horrible Ole Miss team and another Horrible WKU team... The only team close to those two teams that Lee started against was NSU.... Every other team that LEE led to victory against were way better than WKU and Ole Miss... FACTS AGAIN.........
You say you are not really a JJ fan but yet you are going out of your way to make a fool of yourself defending him in this thread...... And I am beginning to wonder if you are even a good LSU fan by trying to destroy what LEE did as a sterter for one of the best teams in LSU history..........
Bottom ine is that YOU are a JJ fan and NOT an LSU fan...
NOW back on topic... If LSU gets the same kind of QB play this year as they did last year then we are in for a long season like last year..............
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:43 am to dukke v
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guess ALL the coaches and the AP Polls are idiots then... They look at who you beat and if/where they were ranked to determine where to rank a team... BUT I guess LSU should have DROPPED in the polls at the end of 2010 because the games they won during the season were against teams that ended up unranked.... You can't have it both ways d
Yes you can have it both ways. In 2000 bama was was preseason #3 and they ended the season at 3-8. No one considered a win over 2000 bama as a win over a top 5 team. Stop being ignorant.
What you're saying is a team can start the season #1 and then not win a game all year and the team that beat that team in week 1 will have a win against the # 1 team.in the country.
The strength of your schedule is meaningless until the season is over. To deny this is being ignorant. Good god get a clue.
You're arguing that an 8-5 auburn and a 7-6 Florida count as top 25 teams. You're stupid.
This post was edited on 7/10/15 at 7:55 am
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:49 am to dukke v
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ets see..LSU's record in games LEE started???8-0
Games which JJ started??? 4-1....
FACT...the only STATS THAT MATTER.............
Wins are a TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENT.
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Plus you keep brining up the #2 and # teams that JJ played against...What about the PADDED stats he got by playing a Horrible Ole Miss team and another Horrible WKU team... The only team close to those two teams that Lee started against was NSU.... Every other team that LEE led to victory against were way better than WKU and Ole Miss... FACTS AGAI
In no way are those facts. Do I need to explain what a fact is? The only team close to Arky and Bama was Oregon and JLEE had a shite game against them.
Listen I'm not saying JLEE wasn't the better passer. All I'm saying is there wasn't a substantial gap between the 2.
JLEE yards per pass 7.8
JJ yards per pass 7.4
Those are facts. Saying one team is better because you say so not an opinion.
JJ career LSU rankings
5th in wins
6th in career tds
6th in compl%
6th in passing yards
Single season qb rushing record holder
Career qb rushing record holder
Lee doesn't come close to any of those achievements. THOSE ARE FACTS YOU DUMBASS.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:53 am to dukke v
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Lets see..LSU's record in games LEE started???8-0
Games which JJ started??? 4-1....
FACT...the only STATS THAT MATTER...
OK then JJ is the 5th best qb in lsu history since he is ranked 5th in wins as a starting qb. You're fricking stupid.
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You say you are not really a JJ fan but yet you are going out of your way to make a fool of yours
See this is where your ignorance comes into play. STATING FACTS ISN'T DEFENDING. IT'S REALITY.
It's not my opinion that JJ is top 6 in every major passing statistic in lsu history. IT'S A frickING FACT DUMBASS.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:54 am to southeasttiger113
Oh don't act like you didn't edit that post to say "even Jarrett Lee looked alright his senior year." You definitely had him in with the good crop when I read it. Also, not one statistic has shown that Lee was the better option so I'm not sure what you are talking about
Posted on 7/10/15 at 7:54 am to tigerpawl
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we don't at least when the SEC, the pumpers will have to go back to their R.E.G. (Random Excuse Generator).
We have finished in the top 15 8 of Miles 10 seasons. Only a god damn moron would be unhappy and bash a coach so successful. Sadly our fan base is ignorant as frick.
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