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Finally, a good take on Greece...
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:05 am
Waldman is a boss
Keep in mind Steve is fairly sophisticated in markets and uses "frick" very generously is his work.
Keep in mind Steve is fairly sophisticated in markets and uses "frick" very generously is his work.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:12 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
Where have you been?
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:02 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
My oversimplified take:
Essentially, Germany and France (to a lesser extent) are to blame, because they admitted Greece into the Euro zone under the guise of continental unity.
Germany knew all along that Greece would struggle mightily, therefore Germany is the "payday lender," and Greece is the poor bastard who just can't keep up.
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Essentially, Germany and France (to a lesser extent) are to blame, because they admitted Greece into the Euro zone under the guise of continental unity.
Germany knew all along that Greece would struggle mightily, therefore Germany is the "payday lender," and Greece is the poor bastard who just can't keep up.
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European leaders had a choice. They had knowingly and purposefully brought weak states into the Eurozone, because they genuinely, even nobly, wished to build a large, strong, United Europe. When they did so, they understood there would be crises. A unified Europe, they had always claimed, would be forged one crisis at a time.
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It is difficult to overstate how deeply Europe’s leaders betrayed the ideals of European integration in their handing of the Greek crisis. The first and most fundamental goal of European integration was to blur the lines of national feeling and interest through commerce and interdependence, in order to prevent the fractures along ethnonational lines that made a charnel house of the continent, twice. That is the first thing, the main rule, that anyone who claims to represent the European project must abide: We solve problems as Europeans together, not as nations in conflict.
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When the levee broke, instead of acknowledging errors and working to address them as a community, Europe’s elites — its politicians and civil servants, its bankers and financiers — deflected the blame in the worst possible way. They turned a systemic problem of financial architecture into a dispute between European nations......If I were Greek, I would surely be a nationalist now.
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Yes, the Greek state was an unworthy and sometimes unscrupulous debtor. Newsflash: The world is full of unworthy and unscrupulous entities willing to take your money and call the transaction a “loan”. It always will be. That is why responsibility for, and the consequences of, extending credit badly must fall upon creditors, not debtors. There is one morality tale that says the debtor must repay, or she has sinned and must be punished. There is another morality tale that says the creditor must invest wisely, or she has stewarded resources poorly and must be punished. We get to choose which morality tale we most use to make sense of the world. We do, and surely should, use both to some degree. But if we emphasize the first story, we end up in a world full of bad loans, wasted resources, and people trapped in debtors’ prison, metaphorical or literal. If we emphasize the second story, we end up in a world where dumb expenditures are never financed in the first place.
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Inflexible debt sows seeds of coercion and enmity between borrower and lender. Equity-like arrangements, including “debt” denominated in securities issuable at will by the debtor, require and encourage trust and collaboration. Sovereign debt in particular should always look like the latter, not the former, given the regularity with which government borrowings are disbursed into insiders’ bank accounts rather than used to aid the publics who might be pressured to foot the bill.
Greece should see its debts forgiven, pretty much wholesale. That forgiveness should be understood as a default, with future investors warned. Insured deposits in Greek bank accounts should be made whole, uninsured deposits should be “bailed in”, Greece’s banking system should be integrated into a much more carefully regulated European banking system that eschews investment in individual sovereigns entirely, Germany as much as Greece.
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Europe’s creditors are behaving exactly as one might naively predict private creditors would behave, seeking to get as much blood from the stone as quickly as possible, indifferent to the cost in longer-term growth. And that, in fact, is a puzzle! Greece’s creditors are not nervous lenders panicked over their own financial situation, but public sector institutions representing primarily governments that are in no financial distress at all. They really shouldn’t be behaving like this.
I think the explanation is quite simple, though. Having recast a crisis caused by a combustible mix of regulatory failure and elite venality into a morality play about profligate Greeks who must be punished, Eurocrats are now engaged in what might be described as “loan-shark theater”. They are putting on a show for the electorates they inflamed in order to preserve their own prestige. The show must go on.
Throughout the crisis, European elites have faced a simple choice: Acknowledge and explain to electorates their own mistakes, which do not line up along national borders of virtue and vice, or revert to a much older playbook and manufacture scapegoats.
Such tiny, tiny people.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:24 pm to bayoubengals88
The whole Euro concept was forged from financial Engineering. Will likely fail unless all countries totally abandon sovereignty and taxation rights adn central banking to a central gov. The question is how long does it take?
Ya'll want to know why the US market did a complete turn around today? This little tidbit from the UK Guardian. A proposal floated for short term solution.
UK Guardian
Ya get it?
Would not be short any markets in this environment unless you got a real strong constitution.
By the way, I don't remember where I read it on Sat, but someone posted in the comments section that it had already been decided Yanis was going and two names had been selected for the job. That was Sat, before the elections. That poster was well informed.
Ya'll want to know why the US market did a complete turn around today? This little tidbit from the UK Guardian. A proposal floated for short term solution.
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But sources in Brussels said that there was a fix available, provided leaders believed the departure of the former Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis had created some goodwill. They said that when Greece’s second bailout expired last Tuesday, €3.3bn in ECB profits from its securities markets programme due to Greece also vanished.Ministers from the Eurogroup could decide to release the profits from 2014, which amount to €1.85bn, and top them up with an additional €1.5bn currently held by eurozone governments in order to solve the ECB problem. A eurozone source said: “It’s not an easy solution, but probably the only solution.”
UK Guardian
Ya get it?
Would not be short any markets in this environment unless you got a real strong constitution.
By the way, I don't remember where I read it on Sat, but someone posted in the comments section that it had already been decided Yanis was going and two names had been selected for the job. That was Sat, before the elections. That poster was well informed.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 5:26 pm to Blakely Bimbo
Maybe a naive question and I know very little about what's going on, but did Yanis fall on his sword on this one? He seemed like a breath of fresh air.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:37 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
I have a slightly different take than interfluidity on this.
Yes, it's certainly true that for the past ten years Greek leadership (mostly not Syriza) sold promises that everyone knew could only be honored for so long. And everyone knew this, but was willing to play musical chairs so long as it was profitable to do so.
This is perfectly normal of course. Morality has nothing to do with this, it was always about who could spot the exit doors in time.
Yes, it's certainly true that for the past ten years Greek leadership (mostly not Syriza) sold promises that everyone knew could only be honored for so long. And everyone knew this, but was willing to play musical chairs so long as it was profitable to do so.
This is perfectly normal of course. Morality has nothing to do with this, it was always about who could spot the exit doors in time.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 11:12 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
Ok, they've issued a press release describing an agreement. Here's the agreement and the Cliff Notes.
The words "unsustainable", "draconian" and "choke the frick out of them" have already been claimed for the bullshite Bingo. Next up for the ECB, reviving the corpse of the Maastricht Treaty.
The words "unsustainable", "draconian" and "choke the frick out of them" have already been claimed for the bullshite Bingo. Next up for the ECB, reviving the corpse of the Maastricht Treaty.
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