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Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:22 am to EastNastySwag
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But you said Johnston touched the ball not Popp.
She did. You're counting a flail while falling as a shot.
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I am just pointing out your idiocy.
By giving credit for that "shot."
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That's all. Good thing you don't ref soccer games.
Burn.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:35 am to Waffle House
Damn Red, that was cold.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:58 am to PurpleandGold Motown
That wasn't necessarily a red if you disregard the rules. We were the better team but were lucky to win after not converting chances in the first half and not getting a well-deserved red. Not to mention that foul on Morgan is not usually called a PK.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:12 am to uway
You can't say we were lucky due to bad officiating while ignoring several gifts the Germans got in the first half. The bad calls equaled out at the very least.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:22 am to LNCHBOX
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You can't say we were lucky due to bad officiating while ignoring several gifts the Germans got in the first half. The bad calls equaled out at the very least.
I don't remember any clear missed calls on Germany that would have resulted in penalties for us.
Only somewhat clear thing I remember is that the ref could have issued at least two more yellows to Germany in first half, including a second on Meier. But it's not surprising to see a ref be reluctant with yellows in the first half. It's inexcusable to forget the DOGSO rule.
I'll take it, though. Going into the game I didn't think we could win.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:46 am to uway
Did Alex Morgan dive to get the penalty? If you watch the slow mo angle, it seems like she may have. She clearly had nowhere to go as the defender was closing in. It looks like she just kicked the ball past the defender and intentionally dove into her to get the foul. The defender also played it pretty poorly and didn't play the ball at all, setting herself up to be vulnerable for such a foul.
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:51 am to uway
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I don't remember any clear missed calls on Germany that would have resulted in penalties for us.
Morgan got drug down in the box at least once, and there was at least one other.
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Going into the game I didn't think we could win.
Why?
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:52 am to Green Grass Miracle
Dive doesn't mean what you think it means.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:57 am to Green Grass Miracle
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Did Alex Morgan dive to get the penalty?
I don't know if I call that a dive, but
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She clearly had nowhere to go as the defender was closing in. It looks like she just kicked the ball past the defender and intentionally dove into her to get the foul. The defender also played it pretty poorly and didn't play the ball at all, setting herself up to be vulnerable for such a foul.
All that.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:04 am to Green Grass Miracle
Morgan didn't dive, it was a clear foul, and it should have been a free kick outside the box.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:05 am to notsince98
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Dive doesn't mean what you think it means.
I think you need to check your head. A dive is an attempt by a player to gain an unfair advantage by diving to the ground and possibly feigning an injury. What I said was that it may have appeared that Morgan attempted to jump into the player and fell to the ground to get the foul. She also rolled around on the ground after it, and could have been pretending to be hurt.
ETA: It was a pretty nasty fall though. But I'm just so jaded by pro's rolling around on the ground over every little thing, it's hard to tell when somebody is really hurt.
If she didn't intentionally do it, then of course it isn't a dive. I'm just speculating because it seemed a little suspicious when watching in slow mo.
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:09 am to Green Grass Miracle
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She clearly had nowhere to go as the defender was closing in. It looks like she just kicked the ball past the defender and intentionally dove into her to get the foul. The defender also played it pretty poorly and didn't play the ball at all, setting herself up to be vulnerable for such a foul.
I flip back and forth on calls like this one. However, as a defender you cannot complain when you do not stop the ball yet stop the player.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:11 am to Fratastic423
I feel like you either had to call a foul or obstruction. Neither should have resulted in a PK.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:15 am to Green Grass Miracle
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Did Alex Morgan dive to get the penalty?
You mean the part where Morgan kicks it right past the defender, the defender knows she's beaten for pace and the defender sticks her arse out to bring her down, and then tries to turn her back and run away like it was incidental?
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No, that's not a dive.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:33 am to Sheep
I'm not sure if the defender knew she was beaten and intentionally took her down, especially so close to the box. I think the defender made a poor decision and "dove in" to try to get the ball and Morgan instead touched the ball past her ambitiously.
I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Morgan is smart enough to read what the defender is going to do and realized that her best option was to bait her in and kick it past and then jump into her. It's kind of a gray area to me on whether it's a dive or not if that actually happened. I guess I'd lean to it being a true foul in this case.
I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Morgan is smart enough to read what the defender is going to do and realized that her best option was to bait her in and kick it past and then jump into her. It's kind of a gray area to me on whether it's a dive or not if that actually happened. I guess I'd lean to it being a true foul in this case.
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:41 am to SUB
I don't think there is any debate that it was a foul (at a minimum obstruction).
Clearly on replay outside the box but looking at the speed and distance and where the ref was - not surprised she missed it.
Clearly on replay outside the box but looking at the speed and distance and where the ref was - not surprised she missed it.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:50 am to SUB
How can anyone NOT see the defender come right in front of Morgan, making no attempt to play the ball? Zero other intention other than to impede her progress.
"I guess it could be a foul" or the guy upthread "I see the pros dive all the time, maybe this was a dive." What in the frick are you people looking at?
This is as much of a no-doubt foul call as there is there is in the game of soccer. If you think otherwise, you've either a. never been chopped down after you've beaten somebody for pace or b. have never chopped somebody down, having been beaten for pace. If you've ever done either (and I've done both - definitely more of the latter lately), there's ZERO doubt about what you're looking at.
It's clearly a foul, clearly a yellow.
Now, it's definitely NOT a PK, but the ref was shite - so it's not surprising that she gave a PK anyway.
It baffles me that this is even a point of conjecture.
"I guess it could be a foul" or the guy upthread "I see the pros dive all the time, maybe this was a dive." What in the frick are you people looking at?
This is as much of a no-doubt foul call as there is there is in the game of soccer. If you think otherwise, you've either a. never been chopped down after you've beaten somebody for pace or b. have never chopped somebody down, having been beaten for pace. If you've ever done either (and I've done both - definitely more of the latter lately), there's ZERO doubt about what you're looking at.
It's clearly a foul, clearly a yellow.
Now, it's definitely NOT a PK, but the ref was shite - so it's not surprising that she gave a PK anyway.
It baffles me that this is even a point of conjecture.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:56 am to Sheep
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No, that's not a dive.
This. The defender ran through her. Clear foul, but it was outside the box.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:41 am to Sheep
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How can anyone NOT see the defender come right in front of Morgan, making no attempt to play the ball? Zero other intention other than to impede her progress.
I don't think anyone can say this is true with 100% certainty. Fatigued players make poor decisions all the time. This could have been one of those instances where the defender thought she had a shot at poking the ball away but Morgan was too quick. After watching it several more times, I think its a foul.
How did the linesman not see that she was not in the box?
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