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Income to house cost ratio: Assuming pretax income, what is the marginal ratio?
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:12 pm
Thanks for the help.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:25 pm to kjacksonp
Read something on MSN money yesterday that said 28% of pretax income. I prefer that number to be less than 20%.
My current mortgage + insurance + taxes is more like 10% of monthly gross income, but this is my starter home.
My current mortgage + insurance + taxes is more like 10% of monthly gross income, but this is my starter home.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:30 pm to kjacksonp
most banks are going to go by 25%-30%
whether or not that is high, depends on your situation
when we first bought our house, it was in the 30% range, but we bought our house at the beginning of our earning potential with the plan to stay in the house long term
5 years later, that % has reduced by almost half
whether or not that is high, depends on your situation
when we first bought our house, it was in the 30% range, but we bought our house at the beginning of our earning potential with the plan to stay in the house long term
5 years later, that % has reduced by almost half
Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:13 pm to kjacksonp
Consider going significantly less. You don't want to be house poor.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 4:01 pm to kjacksonp
When I bought my house the total mortgage (plus insurance and property taxes) totaled 19% of my gross monthly income. If your credit is good you'll probably be able to get a loan that will put you closer to 30% but that's a very large chunk of your monthly income. I wouldn't go above the lower 20's.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:34 pm to kjacksonp
Always live below your means.
Housing is overrated as an investment, however, you do have to live somewhere.
I would say maybe 20% of income is the maximum I would consider for housing.
The less, the better.
Housing is overrated as an investment, however, you do have to live somewhere.
I would say maybe 20% of income is the maximum I would consider for housing.
The less, the better.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:15 pm to kjacksonp
I'm in the low teens and I think that I bit off way more than I should have. I would get stomach ulcers if I was at 25%. I can't even fathom 43%.
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:12 pm to kjacksonp
Assuming a conventional, conforming mortgage, the typical high ratio would be roughly 28% of gross being allowed for PITI (and PMI) and 35% for total monthly debt payments. For a jumbo loan, atypical situation or an in-house/non-conforming loan, your mileage may vary.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:27 am to kjacksonp
Pretax max 36%. I'd say be more around 25%, but things like taxes/schools/commute Should all be factored in.
Are you a "home body" or a "social bug"? Do you drive Hondas until they die or lease 5 series every 3 years? Shop outlets or wear designers only?
Look at responses in this thread. Everyone is different based on personality. Know thy self is the best advice on home buying anyone can ever give you
Good luck!
Are you a "home body" or a "social bug"? Do you drive Hondas until they die or lease 5 series every 3 years? Shop outlets or wear designers only?
Look at responses in this thread. Everyone is different based on personality. Know thy self is the best advice on home buying anyone can ever give you
Good luck!
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 7:28 am
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:22 pm to kjacksonp
This is an impossible question to answer. Home liquidity, net worth, what kind of a deal you got and how well value holds (along with many other examples) play an enormous role in this decision, not some arbitrary percentage.
Let's say you are looking at houses with the exact same specs, one in NOLA is 450k, and one in Lacombe is $225k. Lets just say this puts your mortgage at 50% and 25% of pretax income, until you lose your job and your mortgage is just a debt you can't pay either way. Would you prefer to have stretched your income more to pay for a house you can get rid of within the month? Or would you prefer to have the house that may take a year or more to get rid of?
Houses in uptown New Orleans are more expensive than houses in Lacombe, LA for a reason.
Now this example is a simplified one, and not intended to make one investment sound "better" than another. It is simply an illustration of how you can't just apply some set percentage to your income to see how much house you can "afford".
Also, IMO, never do any type of analysis like this on a pretax basis. Taxes are an expense, just like your house note, and are the one expense you can count on, you will never get out of them, and should be the first items deducted from your budget before any other expenses can be considered.
Let's say you are looking at houses with the exact same specs, one in NOLA is 450k, and one in Lacombe is $225k. Lets just say this puts your mortgage at 50% and 25% of pretax income, until you lose your job and your mortgage is just a debt you can't pay either way. Would you prefer to have stretched your income more to pay for a house you can get rid of within the month? Or would you prefer to have the house that may take a year or more to get rid of?
Houses in uptown New Orleans are more expensive than houses in Lacombe, LA for a reason.
Now this example is a simplified one, and not intended to make one investment sound "better" than another. It is simply an illustration of how you can't just apply some set percentage to your income to see how much house you can "afford".
Also, IMO, never do any type of analysis like this on a pretax basis. Taxes are an expense, just like your house note, and are the one expense you can count on, you will never get out of them, and should be the first items deducted from your budget before any other expenses can be considered.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:09 pm to kjacksonp
When I applied for my first mortgage, I was told I could buy a $400k house. My wife and I made $90k at that time.
I almost puked at the thought of having such a high monthly mortgage payment.
I don't have anything official, but at $90k/year, we were living okay with a $1130/month payment on a $179k house. I wish we had put down more money though.
I almost puked at the thought of having such a high monthly mortgage payment.
I don't have anything official, but at $90k/year, we were living okay with a $1130/month payment on a $179k house. I wish we had put down more money though.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:09 pm to kjacksonp
16% - Mortgage here in SoCal not including taxes,insurance and HOA dues. Don't forget upkeep. Adding everything up.. easily 22 to 25%. A house costs more than just the mortgage.
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