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re: Game of Thrones: Who should get to kill ________? (spoilers)
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:39 pm to Fearthehat0307
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:39 pm to Fearthehat0307
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I'm serious when I say it wasn't rape fwiw, not trolling
Hell, I'd be serious too if I had pending legal issues hanging out there.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:39 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Once you go (castle) Black....you never go back!
No love for the Reek backstory? WTF? That took me like 3 minutes to type out.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:40 pm to Fearthehat0307
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where's he at? I ain't scared
But I've been banned for just the simplest of matters with GoT. Hard to tell these days, but if I so much as enter yalls threads and say Tyrion is a midget, people flip their shite, specifically Cocomo
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:42 pm to OMLandshark
quote:cokes abuses his admin powers
But I've been banned for just the simplest of matters with GoT. Hard to tell these days, but if I so much as enter yalls threads and say Tyrion is a midget, people flip their shite, specifically Cocomo
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:44 pm to KingSlayer
Sansa is going to light a candle in the top of the broken tower and the north is going to do more than just remember.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 7:51 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
You folks saying it's not rape make me terrified that I'm about to bring a little girl into this world.
Go back and re-watch the scene. Ramsey tells her to take off her clothes. She hesitates, showing she doesn't want this, and he threatens her.
"I've asked once. I don't like to have to ask twice."
If that's not a threat I don't know what is.
Her actions up to that point are irrelevant. She clearly didn't want the D and he threatened her, bent her over, and gave it to her anyway.
Did she know she had to do it in order to set herself up for vengeance? Yep.
Does that make it "not rape"? Nope.
FWIW, I hate the flak this scene is getting in the media. As long as she gets her revenge and Ramsay gets his shite pushed in, it will pay off. That doesn't make it not rape, though.
Go back and re-watch the scene. Ramsey tells her to take off her clothes. She hesitates, showing she doesn't want this, and he threatens her.
"I've asked once. I don't like to have to ask twice."
If that's not a threat I don't know what is.
Her actions up to that point are irrelevant. She clearly didn't want the D and he threatened her, bent her over, and gave it to her anyway.
Did she know she had to do it in order to set herself up for vengeance? Yep.
Does that make it "not rape"? Nope.
FWIW, I hate the flak this scene is getting in the media. As long as she gets her revenge and Ramsay gets his shite pushed in, it will pay off. That doesn't make it not rape, though.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:11 am to Bamatab
quote:Maybe Pod is ready, maybe not. He certainly stepped up at Blackwater. That being said, I've read a lot of posts wanting Brienne to become the Ghost but I think she's too physically indentifiable and that Pod will take it upon himself. At least, I'd like to see that happen.
Bamatab
Edit: Let me clarify, I want Pod to kill him and the old woman who told Sansa she still had friends will take him and do the cooking.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 8:21 am
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:18 am to KingSlayer
Considering we still don't know who tried to kill Bran or who did kill Joffrey, I'd say there's a good chance we don't find out who kills him. And that IF he dies.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:23 am to LucasP
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Considering we still don't know who tried to kill Bran or who did kill Joffrey, I'd say there's a good chance we don't find out who kills him. And that IF he dies.
Uuuumm...Didn't Cersei orchestrate the Bran attempt? (Assuming you're referring to season one.)
And I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that LF killed Joffrey. Him and the old Tyrell g-ma.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:24 am to Bamadiver
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I'd like to see Sansa do the deed. Slowly. That being said, I think he'll end up in a pie...via Pod.
Has anyone seen Hot Pie lately? Maybe they can bring him up from the riverlands.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:27 am to Wanderin Reb
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Uuuumm...Didn't Cersei orchestrate the Bran attempt? (Assuming you're referring to season one.)
Well, not that it's important anymore, but Joffrey was the one who sent the dagger in the books. Cersei, as dumb as she is, is not dumb enough to arm an assassin with a Valyrian Steel dagger. Joffrey however is.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:29 am to Wanderin Reb
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Didn't Cersei orchestrate the Bran attempt?
No. Cersei wouldn't have used a Valerian steel knife. It's a bigger mystery in the books but it's never given a satisfactory resolution.
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And I'm pretty sure it's been confirmed that LF killed Joffrey. Him and the old Tyrell g-ma.
They both claimed to, when it serves them. Again no real resolution.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:29 am to OMLandshark
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Well, not that it's important anymore, but Joffrey was the one who sent the dagger in the books. Cersei, as dumb as she is, is not dumb enough to arm an assassin with a Valyrian Steel dagger. Joffrey however is.
In the show it was Tyrion's dagger in an attempt to frame him, right? I thought that was the whole thing that heavily implicated her and Jamie.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:30 am to OMLandshark
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but Joffrey was the one who sent the dagger in the books.
Still not convinced of this. Joffrey overhears something his dad says and sends a murderer to kill what is essentially a stranger to him? Seems far fetched.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:30 am to LucasP
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They both claimed to, when it serves them. Again no real resolution.
I figured they were in cahoots. LF definitely knew about the necklace and the old lady took that bead off at the wedding. That explanation satisfies me.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:39 am to Wanderin Reb
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In the show it was Tyrion's dagger in an attempt to frame him, right? I thought that was the whole thing that heavily implicated her and Jamie.
It's possible it was Cersei, since she might not recognize what Valyrian Steel looks like and give it to a thief. But Jaime for sure would not have sent the assassin. He'd surely know what Valyrian Steel looked like and Jaime would see that act as simply cowardice.
EDIT: Plus we get Jaime's POV in the book thinking about it, and he also concludes it was Joffrey who sent the assassin.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 8:40 am
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:40 am to OMLandshark
Has Roose flayed anyone? I thought he was against it because he has told Ramsay on different occasions to cut it out (pun intended) or at least keep it quiet. He knows if they flay people that the north will rebel against them which is why he gets pissed when Ramsay flays someone. He did rape Ramsay's mother which is horrible. Outside of that I don't think he's that bad. Just trying to protect himself and his house. Your comparison of him to Tywin was spot on for the most part. I've always said Roose is the north's Tywin Lannister. In the end, Roose wants peace but at the same time he wants to improve his family's standing politically. Betraying Robb after the war had been lost was his chance to do so. Ruthless? Sure. Horrible? Not so much. Robb brought the betrayal on himself
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:43 am to Henry Jones Jr
Ramsey is a good boy... he's just misunderstood.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:46 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Has Roose flayed anyone? I thought he was against it because he has told Ramsay on different occasions to cut it out (pun intended) or at least keep it quiet. He knows if they flay people that the north will rebel against them which is why he gets pissed when Ramsay flays someone. He did rape Ramsay's mother which is horrible. Outside of that I don't think he's that bad. Just trying to protect himself and his house.
I'm pretty damn confident he's flayed some people. Granted I don't think he makes a habit out of it in the same way Ramsay does, but I imagine he's probably flayed some thieves, rapists, and murderers in his day. Theon was pretty shocked he didn't flay anyone that had inhabited Winterfell.
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Your comparison of him to Tywin was spot on for the most part. I've always said Roose is the north's Tywin Lannister. In the end, Roose wants peace but at the same time he wants to improve his family's standing politically. Betraying Robb after the war had been lost was his chance to do so. Ruthless? Sure. Horrible? Not so much. Robb brought the betrayal on himself
But I'd say Tywin is evil too. Yeah, he wants stability, but only if it's under his rule. Other than that, neither Tywin nor Roose really give a shite. Both characters are textbook Lawful Evil.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 8:54 am to LucasP
I thought it was confirmed in the books that Joffery did it. Someone said he did it to please Robert because he overheard Robert saying that someone should put a knife through Bran's heart. That that would be a kindness instead of letting him live as a cripple
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