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re: Mad Men Series Finale - "Person to Person"
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:48 pm to blowmeauburn
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:48 pm to blowmeauburn
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So did Don go back and do the Coke commercial?
Yes. Found the inspiration for one of the great ads in televised advertising history from those fricking hippies.
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 10:58 pm
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:53 pm to theunknownknight
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So Don learns that he was never loved and that's why he never recognized love in his life. He spent his whole life trying to get everyone to love him (and his products) but he really was THE con man "with poor instincts" and ended up throwing everything away. When he loses everything...that's when he truly finds himself, understands love, and creates the greatest ad ever made. The end.
I think a few people loved him (Peggy, Sally, and Anna among them) but he recognized that he still never understood love and that human connection on a personal level (though he could sell it).
Still a solid post from you.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:58 am to Navytiger74
Finally watched the show earlier today and thankfully read this whole thread
A bit ashamdely, I didn't get the Coke commercial until after reading this thread. I was annoyed Dons story was lacking compared to the rest of the cast in an otherwise great episode. Then with minutes remaining we get a guy crying taking up Dons screen time, so I wasn't even much caring anymore and then a Coke commercial? I deleted it off the DVR and thought it was a good episode and sad it was all over, but didn't really realize the depth I just missed. Now I want to watch it again and it's gone
Some thoughts:
January killed it in her scene. And Don when he said Birdie...
As people have mentioned, Pete went from despised to great and finished the winner.
The Stan and Peggy bit was a little cheesy but perfect. Stan is great.
Sally was cool, but I really hope she gets her own independent life.
I absolutely hated Joan the last couple seasons, but I liked her in this ep.
Roger had some more great lines
And Now I have to watch the episode again. Especially the ending I "missed".
I'm going to definitely miss this show. Someone said they'd like to see Don pitch Coke in a little mini episode and I agree, that would be awesome. It will be hard not watching new episodes anymore.
A bit ashamdely, I didn't get the Coke commercial until after reading this thread. I was annoyed Dons story was lacking compared to the rest of the cast in an otherwise great episode. Then with minutes remaining we get a guy crying taking up Dons screen time, so I wasn't even much caring anymore and then a Coke commercial? I deleted it off the DVR and thought it was a good episode and sad it was all over, but didn't really realize the depth I just missed. Now I want to watch it again and it's gone
Some thoughts:
January killed it in her scene. And Don when he said Birdie...
As people have mentioned, Pete went from despised to great and finished the winner.
The Stan and Peggy bit was a little cheesy but perfect. Stan is great.
Sally was cool, but I really hope she gets her own independent life.
I absolutely hated Joan the last couple seasons, but I liked her in this ep.
Roger had some more great lines
And Now I have to watch the episode again. Especially the ending I "missed".
I'm going to definitely miss this show. Someone said they'd like to see Don pitch Coke in a little mini episode and I agree, that would be awesome. It will be hard not watching new episodes anymore.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:05 am to Sho Nuff
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Then with minutes remaining we get a guy crying taking up Dons screen time, so I wasn't even much caring anymore and then a Coke commercial? I deleted it off the DVR and thought it was a good episode and sad it was all over, but didn't really realize the depth I just missed.
I've never seen an episode of Mad Men until last night when I watched the finale and even I caught on about the Coke commercial. It was fairly obvious with Dick smiling at the end as the typewriter chimed.
Having no context on the character, I didn't get as much out of that crying scene at the end as you guys probably did but it still was pretty powerful.
I've been hemming and hawing on whether to watch this show for a few years now but after the finale I'm definitely going to.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:35 am to Murray
Yeah, had I been watching every second of the ending I would have gotten the commercial sooner, but I sometimes have a bad habit of checking my phone or reading TD and was doing some of that since I was uninterested in Dons story at that point.
I knew the guy crying was all for Don and it would "click" but I was just unimpressed with the ending after 7 years was this guy getting more time instead of Don. It will be good to watch again.
And yes, watch the show. It's one of my favorites of all-time and so well written.
I knew the guy crying was all for Don and it would "click" but I was just unimpressed with the ending after 7 years was this guy getting more time instead of Don. It will be good to watch again.
And yes, watch the show. It's one of my favorites of all-time and so well written.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 4:37 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:37 am to Sho Nuff
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Yeah, had I been watching every second of the ending I would have gotten the commercial sooner, but I sometimes have a bad habit of checking my phone or reading TD.
if you find a cure for this let me know because my wife has it bad.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 6:02 am to Sho Nuff
Nobody wanted one of their last images of Don to be him crying away in a chair. I am ok with the surrogate.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 6:09 am to weagle99
Can't believe it's over.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 6:39 am to weagle99
quote:yes.... Leonard's story/ confession was Don saying who he was without him saying it himself.
Nobody wanted one of their last images of Don to be him crying away in a chair. I am ok with the surrogate.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 6:57 am to Crow Pie
Posted on 5/19/15 at 7:13 am to southernelite
Upon first watch I assumed that Don had finally found peace with himself after finally coming to the realization how alone he was after hearing the other guys speech. The next day I assumed the smile was because he finally reached and conquered the lowest point in his life and was finally content with it all.
When the coke ad played I had absolutely no idea what the connection was bc I had never seen that ad before (I'm 25). But reading on here about its popularity made its inclusion make much more sense. I still don't think in that smiling moment was Don "thinking of the idea" specifically, I still think that was his long awaited, final acceptance of his past, his transgressions, his loneliness, and everything he's gone through in his life and in the show that he channeled into making the ad.
Oh and thanks to whoever posted the Big Love spoiler...which I started a couple weeks ago. Dick.
When the coke ad played I had absolutely no idea what the connection was bc I had never seen that ad before (I'm 25). But reading on here about its popularity made its inclusion make much more sense. I still don't think in that smiling moment was Don "thinking of the idea" specifically, I still think that was his long awaited, final acceptance of his past, his transgressions, his loneliness, and everything he's gone through in his life and in the show that he channeled into making the ad.
Oh and thanks to whoever posted the Big Love spoiler...which I started a couple weeks ago. Dick.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 7:16 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 7:50 am to southernelite
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Jon Hamm says Don wrote the Coke commercial.
I honestly can't come up with any rational process that would lead to "Peggy did the Coke commercial" and it make any sense.
- The commercial came out in July 1971, a little over 8 months after the finale's timeline ended (October 1970).
- Peggy had just started at McCann-Erickson.
- Peggy was such an afterthought in M-E's aquisition of SCDP that they forgot to assign her an office.
- Peggy had to threaten her middle manager just to keep one of her SMALL accounts (Chevalier wines).
- The sexism is so bad at M-E the one female character that had a golden parachute available to her bailed out.
- The one thing that made Don's eyes light up in this last half-season was the mention of Coca Cola.
- Don made "repairs" to 2 things in the penultimate episode: a typewriter and a Coke machine. Both scream "METAPHOR!" in my opinion... the typewriter is Don's career in advertising and the Coke machine is (obviously) the Coca Cola account. HE FIXES THEM BOTH.
- Peggy tells Don to come "home" (i.e. working with her in advertising IS Don's home).
- Stan confidently states about Don "He always comes back." And he always does.
- The final scene is Don meditating and as soon as a small bell goes off and Don smiles like the cat who ate the canary the scene fades to the Coke commercial.
Some people add all of this up and they come up with the sum "Peggy did it."
Posted on 5/19/15 at 8:14 am to JBeam
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confused & happy this scene made me.
When I saw him driving that car in the salt flats, I started to kind of wonder about some of the DB Cooper theories.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 8:44 am to beatbammer
This show has been extremely true to historical timing.
You're 100% right. There's really no way Peggy did it. Not saying she wasn't capable but ME would not let her.
As said over and over, she had to claw and dig in just to keep that small account in the final episode.
Also, worth noting the head guy at ME was clearly pretty sexist(based on the Joan scene) and also OBSESSED with Don.
You're 100% right. There's really no way Peggy did it. Not saying she wasn't capable but ME would not let her.
As said over and over, she had to claw and dig in just to keep that small account in the final episode.
Also, worth noting the head guy at ME was clearly pretty sexist(based on the Joan scene) and also OBSESSED with Don.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 8:45 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:27 am to STLhog
Any chance Joan's business wasnt really doing well in her final cameratime and she was just acting busy because she was hopped up on coke?
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:52 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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The next day I assumed the smile was because he finally reached and conquered the lowest point in his life and was finally content with it all.
I don't buy it. It was clear he was happy and at peace at the beginning of the last scene. You see him sitting there with all the others, cross legged, peaceful. He didn't have to smile for us to know that he had found happiness. The bell and the smile at the end are a clear segue-way into the coke commercial, because that was the point that he thought of the idea.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:00 am to STLhog
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head guy at ME was clearly pretty sexist(based on the Joan scene) and also OBSESSED with Don
If you'll recall, in I believe the first season, Hobart went so far as to cast Betty in a commercial in an attempt to lure Don away from Sterling Cooper.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:15 am to Navytiger74
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So did Don go back and do the Coke commercial?
Yes. Found the inspiration for one of the great ads in televised advertising history from those fricking hippies.
I would definitely like to think that this is how it ended and after seeing the slight smile on Don's face as it cut to the Coke commercial, I agree that this is a logical conclusion. Peggy will eventually get her Creative Director position but as Pete pointed out, it will probably happen closer to 1980, not 1971 when the Coke commercial was produced.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:17 am to STLhog
Just curious, has a show ever had a cultural impact like Mad Men has? Maybe it's me, but I feel like it made the 50's/60's lifestyle really popular and it has influenced fashion, pop culture, etc. I don't recall another show having such an impact.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:37 am to FairhopeTider
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Just curious, has a show ever had a cultural impact like Mad Men has? Maybe it's me, but I feel like it made the 50's/60's lifestyle really popular and it has influenced fashion, pop culture, etc. I don't recall another show having such an impact.
In the 70's, we had 50's dances at our school. That was due to American Graffiti and Happy Days.
The Cosby Show had a big impact on the sweater industry.
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