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re: Game of Thrones S5E4 "Sons of the Harpy" (Bookish Types; SPOILERS)
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:53 am to Salmon
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:53 am to Salmon
quote:
saying something didn't make sense and knowing something as fact are not the same thing
He knew Ned was an honorable man and that him knocking up some whore doesn't make sense
Yep. It's not a stretch to think that, especially coming from the man that Ned lost his life trying to support for the crown. And Stannis knows a little bit about loyalty himself.
I think it's not a stretch to think those who knew the Starks at that time thought there was more to the story. We all think it just from the little bit we've read on it.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:53 am to OMLandshark
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LF was healing in the Maesters' chamber. When he saw the Direwolf symbol, he opened it, read it, and then threw it into the fire merely to spite Brandon. With Brandon not getting the message, this leads to his death, his father's death, and an entire dynasty falling. Knowing what simply burning a letter did to the Seven Kingdoms, LF decided to turn this into a career and subtly manipulating the highborn to destroy one another until he is left as the King of the Ashes.
thats pretty good
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:06 pm to JumpingTheShark
quote:A spear is a terrible close quarters weapon. A lesser fighter with a small blade only has to dodge one lunge and it's game over.
It frustrates me how the Unsullied are set up as the greatest fighters Dany could get but they just got their arse handed to them pretty bad.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:17 pm to SundayFunday
quote:Being killed in battle is one thing, having your throat slit from behind would be kind of demeaning, IMO. Would make it appear that you died like a bitch.
Im not sure I believe they are both dead. I mean worm stopped Barristan's throat from being slit and all. What would be the point of that.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:24 pm to The Dude Abides
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A spear is a terrible close quarters weapon. A lesser fighter with a small blade only has to dodge one lunge and it's game over.
As the Romans learned when they went from the Greek hoplite model to the Legionary model - for a defensive force, the hoplon and spear (clearly the model for the Unsullied are the Spartans - albeit a little less heavily armored) is fine and, with proper discipline, can make a reasonably effective general infantry formation.
But, the shield and spear do not work in either more open or more restricted fighting spaces. The Spartans at their peak were bronze age and did carry a short thrusting sword, but these were secondary weapons to serve until a replacement spear could be secured.
The Romans, understanding the need to govern conquered cities AND the need to cover more frontage with the same number of infantry soldiers, went to the iron age model that is, ultimately, the model for all western infantry until gunpowder (and even then, the vestiges remain) - solid upper torso armor, relatively unencumbered limbs (protection at the joints) - solid shield and short thrusting sword - that works in formation, even with some open space, that works in one-on-one engagements. Short sword is fast, flexible and sturdy.
The reason knights fight with longer swords is that they're often mounted and a long sword, flail, long handled axe would be necessary to fight other riders or even infantry on the ground.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:25 pm to The Dude Abides
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did you not watch the scene when Dany specifically told him to go out to the streets and that she didn't need him by her side at the time?
nope, I completely missed that dialogue. I must have been refreshing my drink...
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:28 pm to 68wDoc68w
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sorry if this was brought up already but was the importance of the feather Sansa picked up if any?
3 eyed raven feather?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:34 pm to Napoleon
quote:Uh huh.
backchanneling =/= talking to mods.
Thank god there aren't other posts in which you clearly state that you emailed the mods.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:43 pm to iluvdatiger
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3 eyed raven feather?
Robert put it on Lyanna's grave in Season 1
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:40 pm to OMLandshark
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I doubt her father would be all that understanding, especially given that he specifically wanted to forge alliances with the other kingdoms or if he was anything like Ned.
I was listening to a podcast recently that said that Lord Stark was rather calm about the entire situation (alluding that he knew that Rhaegar didn't abduct her). It was Brandon that went enraged to KL and Lord Stark had to go to get him back.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:14 pm to NavyLSUAlum
quote:And an accomplished drinker, obviously.
I am 56 years old. I was in the Navy. I was an officer in the Navy. I went to the Naval Academy. I have read more books on tactics than you. Including Sun Tzu The Art of War, Armoured Tactics by Fuller, Strategy by B H Liddell Hart, Infantry Attacks by Rommel, War as I knew it by Patton, Mahan and many others. It was my job, and I loved it. I played war games all of my life including RPG's. I was in SCA. So you really whiffed on that one.
Obviously, you don't know what your talking about.
What does any of that have to do with sword and shield tactics? Also, the phalanx was the epitome of sword and shield warfare. How was it made obsolete?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:46 pm to JumpingTheShark
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It frustrates me how the Unsullied are set up as the greatest fighters Dany could get but they just got their arse handed to them pretty bad.
A great army doesn't necessarily translate to great fighters when not in their ranks and in close quarters.
I think we're also underestimating the prowess of the Sons of the Harpy. It's likely some of those guys are trained guards that have been aligned, and trained for defense, by the greater houses in Meereen. And we know they're also known for their fighting pits.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:47 pm to Antonio Moss
Unlike the books, there has been very little indication on the show that R+L=J, up to this point. I think the show just wanted to set it up, since it's pretty obvious to anyone whose read the books.
Honestly, it's not one of Gurm's more subtle hints.
Honestly, it's not one of Gurm's more subtle hints.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:52 pm to blueboy
I keep seeing people here mention grayscale having some big effect. I'm blanking from the books...does it come up other than Shireen or them thinking Tyrion gets it when he gets attacked by those sea people?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 2:56 pm to tween the hedges
They think Tyrion might have gotten it but he didn't. Although, Old Griff got it while pulling Tyrion out of the water. He's hiding it with his gloves for the moment.
Also, This popped up on reddit. Its a still from the preview of episode 5. Possibly a Stoneman!
Also, This popped up on reddit. Its a still from the preview of episode 5. Possibly a Stoneman!
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:01 pm to SundayFunday
Ok....and what was the reason they arrested Loras for? Liking peen?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:03 pm to SundayFunday
True, but since Connington is not on the show, who do you think gets it?
And to those who think Mormont will be taking Barristan's place, the season trailer has a shot of Jorah fighting in what appears to be a fighting pit. So, it doesn't appear as though his reunion with Dany goes well for him. Or, maybe the slave story will play out on the show, and that's how she sees him again.
And to those who think Mormont will be taking Barristan's place, the season trailer has a shot of Jorah fighting in what appears to be a fighting pit. So, it doesn't appear as though his reunion with Dany goes well for him. Or, maybe the slave story will play out on the show, and that's how she sees him again.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:03 pm to tween the hedges
quote:
Ok....and what was the reason they arrested Loras for? Liking peen?
Yup
Posted on 5/4/15 at 3:08 pm to blueboy
I think Jorah gets the grayscale pulling Tyrion out of the water in the next episode.
I think Jorah takes Barristan's place fighting in the fighting pits as well. Although Barristan vs Khrazz is one of my favorite moments in the books, I think Jorah would be good in that role on the show.
I think Jorah takes Barristan's place fighting in the fighting pits as well. Although Barristan vs Khrazz is one of my favorite moments in the books, I think Jorah would be good in that role on the show.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 3:10 pm
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