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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Edition ***Spoilers Possible***
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:27 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:27 pm to TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:31 pm to wildtigercat93
I don't know if they go this way or not, just thinking of possible directions.
Stannis wasn't any more crippled than a lot of characters after a major fight. He was beaten up and tired, but not hamstrung (he moved well enough to kill those last two soldiers). He didn't get any more injured than, say, Jorah in the pit, who was moving around pretty well the next episode. In fact, didn't Jorah even get the same "slash to the leg" type blow? I'm guessing Westerosi leather armor at the legs would be the official explanation, but I'd say leg slashes are meant to be dramatic non-lethal blows, to show us the guy is in increasing trouble.
Just figuring possible moves in the plot. If Stannis survives, it serves to keep Mel (and anyone with her) away from him at all costs, because she knows he would end her.
Stannis wasn't any more crippled than a lot of characters after a major fight. He was beaten up and tired, but not hamstrung (he moved well enough to kill those last two soldiers). He didn't get any more injured than, say, Jorah in the pit, who was moving around pretty well the next episode. In fact, didn't Jorah even get the same "slash to the leg" type blow? I'm guessing Westerosi leather armor at the legs would be the official explanation, but I'd say leg slashes are meant to be dramatic non-lethal blows, to show us the guy is in increasing trouble.
Just figuring possible moves in the plot. If Stannis survives, it serves to keep Mel (and anyone with her) away from him at all costs, because she knows he would end her.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:40 pm to Scoob
Going another direction, what about Doran's son? Do Jaime and Bronn toss his arse overboard? Does he turn against his house in order to kill his aunt (he was in love with Myrcella)?
For that matter, what about Doran- she kissed his ring. I assume there was some slobber on his hand, he might have had a fatal nosebleed too. And with his son out of the way, does she now run Dorne?
For that matter, what about Doran- she kissed his ring. I assume there was some slobber on his hand, he might have had a fatal nosebleed too. And with his son out of the way, does she now run Dorne?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:00 pm to Scoob
quote:And he got his leg sliced by one of those soldiers and started bleeding out. He was done.
He was beaten up and tired, but not hamstrung (he moved well enough to kill those last two soldiers).
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:03 pm to Scoob
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Going another direction, what about Doran's son? Do Jaime and Bronn toss his arse overboard?
This would be a dumbass political move. Why would they get rid of someone that valuable. I believe Trystane is the heir to Dorne (in the show). Killing him would be as dumb as killing Myrcella (that sand whore is stupid).
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:14 pm to Epic Cajun
Not to mention that the crew members on the boat are Dornish.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:33 pm to Scoob
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Jorah even get the same "slash to the leg" type blow?
Ned's was worse, he survived
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:36 pm to TigerintheNO
Ned had the kings best healers on him instantly
Stannis is a Forrest with the closest place to get healed is his biggest enemy
Try again.
Stannis is a Forrest with the closest place to get healed is his biggest enemy
Try again.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:04 pm to wildtigercat93
If my life was endanger & needed medical help, I would chose just about every other maester before I would select maester Pycelle.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:17 pm to TigerintheNO
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If my life was endanger & needed medical help, I would chose just about every other maester before I would select maester Pycelle.
Pycelle is better than literally no one.
There's no one around
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:19 pm to TigerintheNO
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If my life was endanger & needed medical help, I would chose just about every other maester before I would select maester Qyburn.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:34 pm to wildtigercat93
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As important as Jon Snows storyline is, it's still completely secluded from the rest of the story so far. Jon snow dies...who cares? No one believes or cares enough about the WW impending attack for anyone to actually give a shite about the one guy that might be the answer to that problem. No major houses will be upset, no wars will begin or end from it. It is just a footnote in the library of the Nights Watch.
It only immediately effects the Wall storyline and the Wall storyline only, which is a completely terrible storyline without Jon.
Here's the most succinct way I can think of it - if Jon Snow is really dead, then what was the point of Jon Snow?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:45 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:you had no clue how the story was going to continue when you read/saw the red wedding. Dont lie and say you did. But looking back at it now, other story arcs came out of that. Which can still happen in this instance. Even though i believe he isnt dead/will be resurrected. Im just calling you out on your chicken little whining.
Please explain to me how. Besides the WWs would have free reign to do whatever they want to.
His story is secluded, it doesn't redirect any current storylines besides the wall.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:46 pm to Scoob
quote:besides the river of blood flowing from his leg
Stannis wasn't any more crippled than a lot of characters after a major fight. He was beaten up and tired, but not hamstrung (he moved well enough to kill those last two soldiers). He didn't get any more injured than, say, Jorah in the pit
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:49 pm to NWHoustonTiger
quote:for fans to say "What If" when Martin finishes the books with the WWers running through the whole world. and the series ending with them winning.
Here's the most succinct way I can think of it - if Jon Snow is really dead, then what was the point of Jon Snow?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:55 pm to CarRamrod
You whine about people whining more than anyone whines about anything 
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:00 pm to wildtigercat93
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You whine about people whining more than anyone whines about anything
i have like 5 posts in this thread. Are you delusional? Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:01 pm to CarRamrod
I'm not talking about just this thread, don't be dense
Posted on 6/17/15 at 5:11 pm to CarRamrod
quote:actually, I could see this happening. I've read some sci-fi in the past with that angle.
Here's the most succinct way I can think of it - if Jon Snow is really dead, then what was the point of Jon Snow?
for fans to say "What If" when Martin finishes the books with the WWers running through the whole world. and the series ending with them winning.
One thing to watch is what happens to Jorah; he's got greyscale now. He's doomed to die, unless someone knows how to cure it. Stannis was able to cure Shireen, he could be of assistance ... but now Stannis, Shireen and the rest of the Baratheons are done. So, if Jorah dies from this, we will have seen he could have been saved, if only the right people came together.
Maybe it all plays out like this.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 5:14 pm to Scoob
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He's doomed to die, unless someone knows how to cure it. Stannis was able to cure Shireen
There's no cure. You can only stop it from spreading and infecting others. Curing means it goes away.
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