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re: NCAA Graphic: New Ball vs. Old Ball Comparison
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:46 pm to SlapahoeTribe
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:46 pm to SlapahoeTribe
i don't think anyone ever bought the player safety angle.
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:50 pm to SouthOfSouth
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At the end of the day
made me stop reading the whole damn thread 
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:59 pm to OneMoreTime
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:04 pm to OneMoreTime
Good stats
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:04 pm to TigerCub
Pitching has killed us this year
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:06 pm to ell_13
One thing that really stood out to me when I looked at those trend stats were the hr/game numbers in 2009 and 2010. 09 tied with 97 for 2nd highest hr/game of the last 45 years and 10 was 4th highest.
Really odd, and I'm not sure what caused that increase. They banned composites after the 09 season, but HRs were still high in 10.
Really odd, and I'm not sure what caused that increase. They banned composites after the 09 season, but HRs were still high in 10.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:18 pm to ell_13
I really like it. Power pitching and power hitting is up!
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:28 pm to OneMoreTime
You're not crazy...
Bats changed after '10
Bats changed after '10
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:36 pm to OneMoreTime
I am starting to feel bad about my position...
I tend to believe that college baseball would be better if it was more like pro ball (minus the 162 games...) but I hate when people try and tell me College Basketball needs to be more like the NBA... I love College baseball (way more than MLB) but I do feel like the NCAA is killing the momentum of gaining fans by not giving offenses more power.
I'd say the biggest problem in the sport is the absolute inability to hit homeruns at Omaha. If they fixed that, then I wouldn't have a problem with the bats/balls/etc, but with the way Omaha plays, something needs to change.
I tend to believe that college baseball would be better if it was more like pro ball (minus the 162 games...) but I hate when people try and tell me College Basketball needs to be more like the NBA... I love College baseball (way more than MLB) but I do feel like the NCAA is killing the momentum of gaining fans by not giving offenses more power.
I'd say the biggest problem in the sport is the absolute inability to hit homeruns at Omaha. If they fixed that, then I wouldn't have a problem with the bats/balls/etc, but with the way Omaha plays, something needs to change.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:37 pm to SouthOfSouth
It's a ballpark problem though. You'd have to go back to 97 standards for it to make a difference there. I feel your pain. I hate that place.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:53 pm to ell_13
well, they are probably not going to move from that park any time soon. I guess the next best option is moving the fences in? Of course that doesn't really help with the orientation of the field and the wind issues.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:54 pm to SouthOfSouth
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I'm surprised I am getting and opposition to just wanting the old 2009 bats back...
SoS: I completely agree with you.
We need the old bats again, because the effect of the new ball is negligible overall. You're correct, the % increase of homeruns is nice, but it (overall) it went from a small number to a slightly-less small number.
I think there needs to be much more offense in baseball to make it watchable, and the new balls unfortunately haven't had that effect.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:56 pm to ell_13
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It's a ballpark problem though. You'd have to go back to 97 standards for it to make a difference there. I feel your pain. I hate that place.
I mean, yall know I love college baseball and LSU baseball and only want to help the sport grow... I went to Omaha in 09 and it was the greatest experience of my life and while the new stadium is nice, the fact that you have to completely change your style of play is a total abomination of a way to crown a champion in a sport.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:02 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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I really like it. Power pitching and power hitting is up!
I just don't understand how people can like dominant pitching. Yes, I appreciate the skill of the pitcher, but to me it's incredibly boring.
The same guy, standing on the same spot, throwing the ball to the same guy crouching down in the same spot, and virtually nothing happens. For 3 hours.
I truly think people have just been conditioned to say they like it because it's what they've heard their entire lives. And they have trouble breaking out of the "purist" mold. But if you take a giant step back and look at it realistically, why in the world would I want to watch that?
I'd much rather see much more hitting and defenders making plays. Base runners on the move. Doubles stretched to triples. Close plays at the plate. You know .... actual action.
I'm not saying I want to see a 20-19 game where pitching is completely eliminated, but 8-7 is a lot more entertaining than 2-1.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:12 pm to SouthOfSouth
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I am starting to feel bad about my position...
quote:I feel like the baseball change is a good first step, and I think we'll see the offensive numbers continue to climb in the next few years due to coaches using less small ball with these new baseballs (won't be a huge jump, but I think they'll keep going up). I think the NCAA realizes that the lack of offense is a problem, but they aren't going to move to any bats that increase the exit speed of the ball (pre BBCOR bats).
I tend to believe that college baseball would be better if it was more like pro ball (minus the 162 games...) but I hate when people try and tell me College Basketball needs to be more like the NBA... I love College baseball (way more than MLB) but I do feel like the NCAA is killing the momentum of gaining fans by not giving offenses more power.
Outside of moving to the MLB baseball (which I think jumps off the bat a bit more; not 100% on that), I don't see where they're going to inject any more offense into the game.
quote:This won't change unless they move stadiums.
I'd say the biggest problem in the sport is the absolute inability to hit homeruns at Omaha. If they fixed that, then I wouldn't have a problem with the bats/balls/etc, but with the way Omaha plays, something needs to change.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:27 pm to OneMoreTime
Looking at the full list of midseason trends here gives a few more points to compare.
Sac hits are down 10.8%. And although batting average hasn't increased much, slugging is up 17 points or 1.05%, which is fairly significant, imo (a product of the HRs for sure, but also xbh).
I think in another year or 2 we'll have a decent picture of what numbers we can expect out of these bats and balls and the NCAA will evaluate where to go next. The fact that they made the change to these balls gives me some hope that they'll do what they need to do to get the game where it needs to be.
Sac hits are down 10.8%. And although batting average hasn't increased much, slugging is up 17 points or 1.05%, which is fairly significant, imo (a product of the HRs for sure, but also xbh).
I think in another year or 2 we'll have a decent picture of what numbers we can expect out of these bats and balls and the NCAA will evaluate where to go next. The fact that they made the change to these balls gives me some hope that they'll do what they need to do to get the game where it needs to be.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:33 pm to ell_13
Bring the fences in 20 feet. Problem solved. I can't tell you how many great hits ended up on the warning track over the last few years.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:38 pm to Brageous
quote:Then no one will find any grass in the outfield.
Bring the fences in 20 feet.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:39 pm to atltiger6487
because i like seeing Lange K 13 a night.. (moves quick) meanwhile our lineup didn't even have a single strikeout in a game until around the later innings and krob came in or something.. (loads of fun to watch)
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:01 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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This just means less bunting. I don't like it.
Pawl doesn't bunt anyways haven't you been watching???
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