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re: OT workout crew assemble!!! Need suggestions on daily routines
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:21 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:21 pm to Jim Rockford
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This. Work full body. Or split upper/lower body. Or at most split legs, chest/shoulders, back/biceps. Honestly, that's a lot of training, with the running. Anything more than about an hour a day is overdoing it over the long term.
well i only do weights during my lunch every day... and the days i do run/bike with it, i do that 5 hrs later once im off work.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:22 pm to oleyeller
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I was doing back lifts also buy i quit because any pulling motion really really hurts my rotator. As long as im not pulling any rows or doing barbell my shoulder doesnt bother me.
This is a problem. If pulling hurts, you need to figure out why and address that issue.
You seem to be ignoring some of the most important muscles!
FWIW, I have generally adhered to a 3:1 Pull:Push ratio, and that has really helped with shoulder and posterior chain health.
If you are benching, you had better be rowing/pulluping/scap working too
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:23 pm to LSUfan4444
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but with my shoulder i couldnt do any of the back stuff so i just started doing more bicep exercises instead on thur
Have you had a doc diagnose your shoulder pain?
Normally (from my knowledge), things like rows (pulling) don't bother your rotator cuff. Things like presses and things out in front and above your shoulders would.
At least that is from my experiences and readings.
no a doc hasnt, and all i know is its my shoulder haha. nothing else bothers it but barbell, and pulling motion. so i just avoid that all together. Im not trying to be in competetion or nothing haha not even close, but definitely trying to better myself
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:24 pm to LSUfan20005
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If you are benching, you had better be rowing/pulluping/scap
i do all my bench with dumbells
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:24 pm to LSUweights
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Congrats on the progress...
You could use some changing around, but listen to your body. Don't further injure that shoulder
thanks man! Im working hard, and can tell a difference for sure
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:31 pm to oleyeller
Do you not workout back? And either combine arms or do chest&BIs one then Back&tris another day. Also what is your goal? Are you an ex fatty trying to slim down?
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:32 pm to oleyeller
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no a doc hasnt, and all i know is its my shoulder haha
I would most certainly get it looked at.
If it really is an injury and something like PT or rest (with some anti infammatories) can help that is where your focus needs to be. If not, you'll end up having to stop for alot longer and do alot more PT if surgery is required.
I would find the problem, then focus on getting healthy first rather than appearance. If it is tendinitis or a weakness somewhere, don't make it worse.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:34 pm to oleyeller
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If you are benching, you had better be rowing/pulluping/scap
i do all my bench with dumbells
He's saying you need to counteract your internal rotation (pushing) with external rotation (pulling). if all you're doing is pushing and putting stress on your shoulders and chest, your back will be weak and you're heading straight for an injury because you are avoiding specific areas which are needed for well balanced strength and health.
It's the same reason you see so many swimmers doing backstroke after long freestyle, fly, breaststroke sets. It helps unwind, keep loose and avoid injury.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:36 pm to oleyeller
Dude,
You need to squat (high bat, low bar, front, overhead, zercher) just squat high bar for right now.
Perform stiff legged or snatch grip deadlifts. Step ups with a barbell etc
You need to squat (high bat, low bar, front, overhead, zercher) just squat high bar for right now.
Perform stiff legged or snatch grip deadlifts. Step ups with a barbell etc
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:37 pm to oleyeller
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I'm going to finish my second cycle of the original 5.31. wendler program then I'm going to hit three months of the Boring But Big 5.3.1 template.
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I'm going to finish my second cycle of the original 5.31. wendler program then I'm going to hit three months of the Boring But Big 5.3.1 template.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:37 pm to oleyeller
Dude you're doing too much cardio
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:40 pm to Tiger Ryno
I like beyond 5/3/1 template.
I'm resting my shoulder strain. But once I get back ill be doing Christian thibodeau's Russian strength skill program
I'm resting my shoulder strain. But once I get back ill be doing Christian thibodeau's Russian strength skill program
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:41 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Do you not workout back? And either combine arms or do chest&BIs one then Back&tris another day. Also what is your goal? Are you an ex fatty trying to slim down?
lean/cut. naw not an ex fatty. Most i ever weighed was 167.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:42 pm to oleyeller
thanks to all who have made suggestions, looking into it all now.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:45 pm to oleyeller
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150lb seated calf raises 3x12
200lb staning calf raises 3x12
160lb leg extensions 4x12
100lb hamstring cufls 3x12
all waste of time
do some squats and lunges
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:54 pm to yellowfin
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150lb seated calf raises 3x12
200lb staning calf raises 3x12
160lb leg extensions 4x12
100lb hamstring cufls 3x12
all waste of time
do some squats and lunges
not sure how it is "a waste of time" but okay
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:54 pm to yellowfin
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all a waste of time
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:59 pm to WG_Dawg
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From the VEERRRRRRRYYYY limited knowledge I have, you're doing a disservice by just isolating one muscle group, especially biceps and shoulders. You'll see more gains and more fat loss by incorporating multiple groups in one workout. Back/Biceps and Chest/Shoulders for instance.
Yeah, that's pretty accurate, particularly for a guy like oleyeller who is just starting out. More full body and core strength exercises will help lean you up. I would say do more deadlifts, cleans, clean and press, bench, pull ups, etc, since they all involve complex movements that will help you gain actual strength. The problem, of course, is that your rotator is all fricked up, so I'm not really sure doing any of those, with the exception of maybe deadlifts, is a good idea.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:00 pm to Tiger Ryno
Monday: National chest Day
Tuesday: Louisiana State Back Day
Wednesday: Half arse Leg Day
Thursday: Beast mode Shoulder Day
Friday: Global Biceptular and Triceptular Day
Tuesday: Louisiana State Back Day
Wednesday: Half arse Leg Day
Thursday: Beast mode Shoulder Day
Friday: Global Biceptular and Triceptular Day
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:02 pm to Chad504boy
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half arse leg day
most people don't even make it to the half arse leg day…its just… day
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