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re: Johnny could have called a timeout at end and got clock set to .5

Posted on 3/21/15 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 5:17 pm to
You set a pick and try a football pass towards your goal. I already said its very unlikely it works but a .000000001 chance is better than none.

Did not calling a timeout lose it? No of course not. The issue is the coach isn't smart enough to call a timeout and try to get more time put on for a Hail Mary type play.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 5:22 pm to
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Damn our fanbase is full of idiots..
Don't be so hard on yourself. Even some idiots realize he should gotten more time added.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 5:38 pm to
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.3 is enough time for a turn and shoot, according to the rules


No its not. .3 seconds you do not have time to catch and shoot. Maybe an alley oop but come on.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 5:49 pm to
you have time for a tip with .3 seconds. It would be like a football pass and then basically pushing it at the goal. That is still better than just letting the refs leave .1 on the clock. we likely get the clock change to .5.
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by bilbo72
Watson, La.
Member since Nov 2013
135 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 5:59 pm to
The only time I have ever seen a coach call timeout with 0.1 on the clock is in the NBA when you can actually advance the ball. Keep analyzing useless things all you want. We lost it's over.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 6:04 pm to
Except if he calls the timeout then it wouldn't be at .1. The refs would have went to the monitor and reviewed when he clock should stop. The time gets put back on and we have a better chance. Its not a game changer, but a coach not being composed enough to do his fricking job should be concerning. The loss isn't on Jones but his lack of in-game coaching didn't do us any favors. Id put 90% of the loss on players choking and a bit on Jones for mismanagement.

hell if we are going to not call a timeout and just have.1 on the clock id be ok with him ripping into the refs and getting a fricking tech to end the game
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 6:05 pm
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 6:19 pm to
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You're right, you can't catch the ball and then shoot it. But you can tip the ball with less than .03 seconds. The time out should have been called. The op is probably right that .05 seconds would have been placed on the clock. JJ should have set up a play setting a screen down the court to try and pick up a foul. If you don't get the foul, throw the ball the length of the court and try for a miracle shot or tip depending on what's on the clock. Any coach with half a brain would have at least called the TO.


. All I'm trying to say is if they made some damn free throws then you wouldn't need a fricking miracle play, but if you want to continue to blame the loss on Jones not setting up a miracle play then go ahead. Should he have called a timeout? Yes he should have because maybe they do put enough time back on the clock for something crazy, but I was simply just trying to point out that free throw shooting at the end lost the game and here come the crazies.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 6:23 pm to
As I said before the nontimeout isn't why we lost. It is just bothersome because our coach isn't aware during the game. It is almost to a T what Les did at ole miss last time. If les called the timeout at the proper time we had 30 seconds left to try and get something. The not calling the timeout clearly isn't why we lost but that doesn't mean we should just look the other way about it.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 6:26 pm to
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you have time for a tip with .3 seconds. It would be like a football pass and then basically pushing it at the goal. That is still better than just letting the refs leave .1 on the clock. we likely get the clock change to .5



I get what youre saying.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 6:28 pm to
plus with something like that going on its possible to draw a foul, of course we probably would manage to brick those considering the massive choke job we were pulling.

Hopefully the players learn to be tougher, maybe Jones should look to what Utah basketball did this past offseason and try to adapt that to our offseason program. Jones needs to learn how to manage games and stay alert instead of being a stoned turtle.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:07 pm to
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plus with something like that going on its possible to draw a foul, of course we probably would manage to brick those considering the massive choke job we were pulling. 



I felt bad for Mickey. On facebook they had video of him in the locker room after the game and the dude was sobbing. Not just teary eyed. Snot coming out of his nose sobbing.
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:13 pm to
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. All I'm trying to say is if they made some damn free throws then you wouldn't need a fricking miracle play, but if you want to continue to blame the loss on Jones not setting up a miracle play then go ahead. Should he have called a timeout? Yes he should have because maybe they do put enough time back on the clock for something crazy, but I was simply just trying to point out that free throw shooting at the end lost the game and here come the crazies.


koLSU86 - You don't get the point. The point is that any coach worth paying should give his team EVERY FIGHTING chance to win a game. JJ did not do that. He froze. He was shocked. Hopefully he learns from it and the players do too.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
9183 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:14 pm to
Ive seen plenty of coaches not call a TO in this situation because the opposing teams Defense can not setup if you don't call timeout. If you call timeout the defense can setup man to man. It was all hectic at the end of the game. If you don't like Jones that's fine but this is ridiculous.
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:15 pm to
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As I said before the nontimeout isn't why we lost. It is just bothersome because our coach isn't aware during the game. It is almost to a T what Les did at ole miss last time. If les called the timeout at the proper time we had 30 seconds left to try and get something. The not calling the timeout clearly isn't why we lost but that doesn't mean we should just look the other way about it.

heartbreakTiger gets it.
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:20 pm to
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Ive seen plenty of coaches not call a TO in this situation because the opposing teams Defense can not setup if you don't call timeout. If you call timeout the defense can setup man to man. It was all hectic at the end of the game. If you don't like Jones that's fine but this is ridiculous.
The funny thing is, I like Coach Jones. I don't like his unpreparedness in certain situations. As far as not calling a timeout with .1 seconds, you are wrong because it don't matter what the defense does at the end, we had to "tap" the ball because you can't catch and shoot with .1 on the clock. Patterson apparently doesn't know the rule because he is the one who tried to catch and shoot. The whole team should have been informed. People on this board ALL YEAR LONG have been saying that Johnny Jones does not hardly ever use all of his timeouts. It's mind boggling and something has to be done about it. I am sure he will admit this sometime in the near future how he has to be a better coach in those situations.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
9183 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:22 pm to
I'm not saying you are wrong about his unpreparedness in certain situations. But I honestly don't think he froze up here.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:47 pm to
Still, Jax, we have to at least try for a miracle. Just don't quit.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:54 pm to
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The point is that any coach worth paying 


So he hasn't earned his paycheck?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:17 pm to
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I'm not saying you are wrong about his unpreparedness in certain situations. But I honestly don't think he froze up here.
So you think he just gave up?
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