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Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:33 am to chesty
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(poli sci)
congrats on having a worthless piece of paper.
Now that the ball busting is out of the way, don't become a LDWF Agent, you'll hate your life and the outdoors even more. You just end up spending all your time in a boat or in the woods trying to catch people that you start to hate being out there. Not to mention all the hours you'll put in only to have judges more concerned about Leroy or Jimmy and their back child support or possession charges and usually just slap your guys on the wrist.
Somebody said move to Alaska, do it. You're young and probably no family (assuming) so go do it. Dont bring all your stuff, just enough to get you going and roll out for a few months or a year.
The National Park Service is pretty good too, and like somebody said your military experience will carry over as time served.
A federal Fish and Parks Refuge Officer/Special Agent is an option too. They have Rangers that are assigned to certain areas, like say Bayou Savage, and you just work that refuge or go for the Federal Green Jeans, but refer back to my 1st paragraph.
Surveyor is a pretty sweet gig, I have a cousin thats been doing that for awhile in Austin and loves it. He makes good money now too. You can also try the USGS as well.
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 10:34 am
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:58 am to brass2mouth
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:08 am to chesty
Get in contact with Rogertheshrubber, they may have some jobs left in Alaska. I called about a week ago and they had a few positions left. The Jeep tour guide sounded pretty awesome if you like the outdoors. I almost took it but got a few interviews for full time work (in my field) soon after.
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 11:10 am
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:18 am to chesty
Try and get funded for a graduate degree in environmental science.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:32 am to sloopy
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Try and get funded for a graduate degree in environmental science.
I have one of these. My only advice regarding this is that it may very well help you get a job, however there's a good chance that degree will not do a bit of good in helping you perform that job proficiently. I'd hire someone with 2 years experience (idgaf if he has a degree or not) and a good grasp on the regulations, procedures, and actual science over someone with a masters and no experience.
Bottom line, you have a degree in a field you do not intend to pursue. There is a very good chance you will have to put in your dues at a low level and learn a lot to become successful in your desired field. You are probably smart, and most guys I know with a college degree and military experience are professional and willing to learn. This will go a lot further towards your career success than your college transcript.
Also, if you have a masters and become really fricking awesome in the environmental field, you'll move up and become too expensive to go into the field all of the time. You'll end up hiring staff to do the grunt work, and you will be stuck in the office writing proposals, traveling to market your services, and smiling at a whole bunch of people you don't like.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:34 am to tenfoe
Making more money as well. I don't want to be taking air and soil samples forever. Screw that
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:47 am to jimbeam
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Making more money as well. I don't want to be taking air and soil samples forever. Screw that
I've had two jobs since I left graduate school. Been at my current one for 2 years. Yeah, I make more money than when I was younger, but I have had the opportunity to make shitloads more with other firms. I've never made a decision regarding my job based on money. I suppose it makes up about 25% of the decision, but being happy every day is worth a whole lot more to me than an extra 50% salary.
For you all getting out of school I'd strongly advise basing your career choice on a few important things:
Can you live where you want to live?
Will you have time to do the things outside of work you enjoy?
Is there room for moving up?
Will you be working with people with similar personal interests as you?
Will the demands of your job make each day overly stressful?
Will you be giving up something up front that will dissuade you from leaving the job should you become unhappy?
Are you willing to completely suck at something in order to learn how to do it correctly?
Life is short. Do what makes you happy. There's a way to make everything work (as long as you don't plan on making a living with an art degree).
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
What is the difference between this Coolworks site and the site you posted in summer jobs thread? Is the company in the other thread basically a headhunter for these types of jobs?
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Many of these can turn into careers. I highly recommend this as a career path. Tourism will never go away
Also- can these really turn into careers? Is it possible to make enough of a living (not rich, but not paycheck to paycheck)?
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:01 pm to tenfoe
If I could do it over I would have moved to California after LSU and worked in a refinery. Then I would have left there and worked on a sockeye salmon boat in Alaska for a little while. After that I would move back to Baton Rouge and open a restaurant selling chicken fingers named after my dog. That would allow me to fulfill a lifelong dream I have had which is to have the biggest treehouse in the world. Yeah. That's what I should have done.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:10 pm to DosManos
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RogerTheShrubber
What is the difference between this Coolworks site and the site you posted in summer jobs thread? Is the company in the other thread basically a headhunter for these types of jobs?
Nah, I think I posted Coolworks and our website, which is exclusively for our company. Coolworks is a posting site where outdoor companies or agencies can post job openings for work. Not all are directly outdoor related, sometimes they have IT jobs, etc. You can brows it by State, job, etc.
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Many of these can turn into careers. I highly recommend this as a career path. Tourism will never go away
Also- can these really turn into careers? Is it possible to make enough of a living (not rich, but not paycheck to paycheck)?
Absolutely. I love it and have tried to do other things, but keep coming back. Starting pay for entry level summer work isn't great, but if you want to make a career it's a fast track to management. I started as a driver/guide for Cruise West years ago working seasonally, the next year I was operations lead, two years later I was asst. division manager and the following year I was division manager.
I'm working as Ops Manager for one of Alaska's largest tour companies (not the largest) and was hired as Sales Director, just switched to Ops this week. Absolutely love the energy, the travel, the fun things I get to do, working with hundreds of younger people, training them etc.
Lots of opportunity to start in the open door and pursue a career being a pilot, guide, fishing captain, etc. Like I said, entry is pretty low paying (though the tips are awesome) but it's a rapid advance if you choose to make it a career.
The best thing to do on Coolworks is pick "Jobs by State" and peruse the jobs available in each State.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Define "outdoors". You looking for work that revolves around hunting/fishing or just want to be outside? Hell, you can apply for a job selling Ag. chemicals with a company like Helena and work outside.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:51 pm to tigerinthebueche
Im cool with either one. Environmental sounds like something I'd like to be involved in
Posted on 3/3/15 at 12:59 pm to jimbeam
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CRA is always hiring.
There's a reason for that
Posted on 3/3/15 at 1:05 pm to tenfoe
Good way to get foot in door for a year. I know lot of people who did that. Me? I won't be going there.
Posted on 3/3/15 at 1:17 pm to jimbeam
I know a few people over there, Not happening. I like where your head is at though
Posted on 3/3/15 at 1:54 pm to chesty
someone mentioned surveying, yes great outdoor job, i did land and land development surveying for a small firm in denham springs.
a degree will not help you make money in this field, as i have a degree in industrial tech.
only drawbacks to surveying is rainouts and very low pay, unless you offshore surveying, dont expect make more than about 40k if you lucky.
only other outdoor job i would want is what my buddy does for LDWF. he is a biologist out of the Pt. Aux chene area. he does very cool stuff and is always outside. works 4 10s, and only has weekends for bag checks during duck season. he plays on an airboat, bands ducks, does all kinds of cool stuff and has good benifis but then again pay isnt that great. but if you like your job then pay isnt a big deal i suppose.
anyways good luck finding a job with a political science degree....
a degree will not help you make money in this field, as i have a degree in industrial tech.
only drawbacks to surveying is rainouts and very low pay, unless you offshore surveying, dont expect make more than about 40k if you lucky.
only other outdoor job i would want is what my buddy does for LDWF. he is a biologist out of the Pt. Aux chene area. he does very cool stuff and is always outside. works 4 10s, and only has weekends for bag checks during duck season. he plays on an airboat, bands ducks, does all kinds of cool stuff and has good benifis but then again pay isnt that great. but if you like your job then pay isnt a big deal i suppose.
anyways good luck finding a job with a political science degree....
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