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bigger need OL or DL?
Posted on 2/20/15 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 2/20/15 at 5:33 pm
What says Saints board after investing heavily in Evans, Grubbs, etc
Posted on 2/20/15 at 5:59 pm to tduecen
We have junior, we're good on dline
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:13 pm to tduecen
Interior O line followed by CB2 are the two biggest needs.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:19 pm to tduecen
Oline and it's not even close. The only needs that rival it are another corner(possibly more needed) and a cover linebacker(possibly less needed).
If Bunkley stays then Dline is set. I don't see anyone coming in and replacing any of the starters (unless we get a stud DT in the first).
If Bunkley stays then Dline is set. I don't see anyone coming in and replacing any of the starters (unless we get a stud DT in the first).
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:21 pm to bonethug0108
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Oline and it's not even close. The only needs that rival it are another corner(possibly more needed) and a cover linebacker(possibly less needed).
If Bunkley stays then Dline is set. I don't see anyone coming in and replacing any of the starters (unless we get a stud DT in the first).
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:23 pm to bonethug0108
I don't remember where I saw it (I posted the link on here a few days ago) and Payton had what he considers our top three needs, in order:
1) CB
2) OL
3) "possibly a pass rusher"
The "possibly" part makes me think that the Junior uncertainty is a concern. This was before the criminal case was dropped, so it's looking a lot less likely that pass rusher is a major need.
1) CB
2) OL
3) "possibly a pass rusher"
The "possibly" part makes me think that the Junior uncertainty is a concern. This was before the criminal case was dropped, so it's looking a lot less likely that pass rusher is a major need.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:27 pm to THRILLHO
Every year they have a list of wants, needs, and musts and those 3 were the musts so clearly we are going to address CB (in FA) and G/C (possible in FA and the draft).
I think you hit on the issue with Galette leading to him saying possibly a pass rusher. That may drop down to a want if he gets squared away.
I think you hit on the issue with Galette leading to him saying possibly a pass rusher. That may drop down to a want if he gets squared away.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:31 pm to tduecen
O line. The offense actually controlling games and keeping pressure on the opponent is going to significantly more to bail out the defense than any d linemen addition that we can afford.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:46 pm to St Augustine
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O line. The offense actually controlling games and keeping pressure on the opponent is going to significantly more to bail out the defense than any d linemen addition that we can afford.
Absolutely. If Juneyah is good to go (I think he will be), then I say spend some FA money on a capable #2CB and focus on interior OL in the draft. We've been fantastic drafting at that position, so I have faith in the FO's ability to find capable starters. We really HAVE to find the interior OL in the draft since each of the C and OG FA classes are only two deep. The ILB FA class is even worse.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:48 pm to THRILLHO
OLB and ILB FA class is sh!t this year.
I will add OLB in the draft is as well. Bunch of OLB/DE
I will add OLB in the draft is as well. Bunch of OLB/DE
This post was edited on 2/20/15 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:54 pm to THRILLHO
And I know that everyone is hoping for Maxwell, but I think that he's going to be a bit too pricey. Chris Culliver (SF) and Tarell Brown (Oak) both look to be cheaper, very capable #2CBs. A healthy Lewis and Byrd, Culliver, and hopefully a reinvigorated Vaccarro could make for the elite secondary that we thought we would have had last season. I know that Byrd didn't play well at all, but he was horribly misused. I'll place my confidence in his excellent first 5 seasons over his 4 shite games with us. Vaccarro needs to be banned from Red Eye, doe.
This post was edited on 2/20/15 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 2/20/15 at 6:57 pm to THRILLHO
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. Chris Culliver (SF) and Tarell Brown (Oak) both look to be cheaper,
Thinking same
Posted on 2/20/15 at 8:11 pm to St Augustine
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O line. The offense actually controlling games and keeping pressure on the opponent is going to significantly more to bail out the defense than any d linemen addition that we can afford.
100%... if you're biggest concern is that your defense is going to suck, best to create a situation where we see the defense as infrequently as possible.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 8:37 pm to THRILLHO
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Chris Culliver (SF) and Tarell Brown (Oak) both look to be cheaper, very capable #2CBs.
I agree!
I would rather have Maxwell but dont know if we can pull it off.
What about Cromartie? No one has mentioned him....
Posted on 2/20/15 at 8:49 pm to Meateye
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What about Cromartie? No one has mentioned him....
His deal will be similar to Maxwell's (maybe a bit less), but he's 4 years older. If we had a better cap situation, I wouldn't be against paying him for one or two great years and taking a solid cap hit in 3 years, but I'd much prefer have a guy to play out a 4 year deal (which would end right around when Brees retires).
Posted on 2/20/15 at 11:02 pm to tduecen
there are more younger guys on the D-line. The O-line interior isn't necessarily old but we need a center for sure.
I think it says something that Goodwin played most of the time in 2014. I guess Lelito will get another chance. I remember noticing Goodwin getting worked over vs. Cincinnati. Did Lelito even play that game? I remember Goodwin got hurt but just can't remember what game it was. But I do remember thinking if Goodwin is playing that bad Lelito can't be that worse. Maybe it was a situation where Goodwin was having to play through an injury?
i think we need help more at ILB than D-line too. We need someone who can make some plays. The Saints haven't really had that since Vilma joined in 2008.
I think it says something that Goodwin played most of the time in 2014. I guess Lelito will get another chance. I remember noticing Goodwin getting worked over vs. Cincinnati. Did Lelito even play that game? I remember Goodwin got hurt but just can't remember what game it was. But I do remember thinking if Goodwin is playing that bad Lelito can't be that worse. Maybe it was a situation where Goodwin was having to play through an injury?
i think we need help more at ILB than D-line too. We need someone who can make some plays. The Saints haven't really had that since Vilma joined in 2008.
This post was edited on 2/20/15 at 11:31 pm
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