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re: It's time to take a step back and remember some real American Heroes
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:32 am to CapitalCityDevil
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:32 am to CapitalCityDevil
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This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:14 pm
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:33 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Old times here are not forgotten Look away
Look away
Look away Dixie land !
Look away
Look away Dixie land !
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:33 am to White Roach
You is on the wrong war my friend, off by almost 100 years.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:33 am to Nonetheless
You never watched The Beverly Hillbillies? Granny Clampett frequently referred to The War of Northern Aggression and The War B'twix The States. "Civil War" has some ugly connotations!
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:33 am to White Roach
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However, if they had lost, they would have been branded as treasonous rebels.
What do you mean "would have"? Most people I know still label them as cowardice traitors to the crown.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:33 am to CapitalCityDevil
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CapitalCityDevil
Go push your liberal agenda elsewhere. This thread is meant to honor all friends of the south
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:34 am to Mo Jeaux
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So some of your Yankee ancestors invaded the South, and now you're telling us what term to use to describe the invasion? Thanks, but no thanks.
Okay, Sesch. I'll grab my Springfield, you get your Enfield, we'll meet at the Hornet's Nest and settle this war once and for all!
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:36 am to White Roach
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During the long build up to the American Revolution, the majority of American colonists wanted nothing to do with secession. By the mid-1770s, roughly a third of the population was for independence, a third were Loyalists and the rest didn't even want to be involved in the argument.
I'm well aware of how tepid the support was for the revolution. Washington and his troops damn near starved at Valley Forge, even as the local farmers sold abundant winter stores to the British.
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"We" eventually won, so Sam Adams and his cohorts are now know as patriots. However, if they had lost, they would have been branded as treasonous rebels.
Correct. So let's look at what was being fought for: the south was fighting to keep it's precious chattel slavery in place.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:36 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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Go push your liberal agenda elsewhere. This thread is meant to honor all friends of the south
typical, ask a question and get labelled as liberal.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:37 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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Go push your liberal agenda elsewhere. This thread is meant to honor all friends of the south
How do you know he is a liberal?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:38 am to Ace Midnight
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Lets just say - Big Scrub - that it is okay to admire the elan and bravery displayed by the CSA in a lost cause.
Sure, it's "OK"...but why waste one damned second on such a thing? The crowd depicted in the video is a perfect example of people going out of their way to celebrate, learn more about, memorialize, etc. events of 150+ years ago...but do you care to guess what their reaction would be to read the new lynching report from last week? I'm sure that would be "how long do we have to keep talking about this" and all of the typical avoidance that seems to magically pop up re such things.
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While I agree with their higher ideals - of state sovereignty - the stain of slavery and the unfortunate devolvement into violence (neither side had clean hands on this - it is the stronger argument that, by the time Lincoln was inaugurated, the South was itching for a fight - wrongheaded and self-destructive as that was) continues to make this a murky issue, rather than a cut and dried one.
It's cut and dried: they fought for chattel slavery.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:38 am to CapitalCityDevil
You can choose to forget the atrocities committed on our women and children by the hated Yankee if you want too but me and mine will never forget.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:39 am to LucaBrasi504
by an Act of Congress, in the US Code- Confederate Soldiers are recognized as "American" veterans just like any other
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:40 am to Big Scrub TX
And there were no slaves in the colonies in the 1770? Why did Lincoln wait until 1863 to issue the Emancipation Proclamation? Why did it only free slaves in the states that were "in rebellion"? Why weren't slaves freed in Maryland and Delaware?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:43 am to CapitalCityDevil
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You is on the wrong war my friend, off by almost 100 years.
You completely missed the point.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:44 am to Big Scrub TX
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the south was fighting to keep it's precious chattel slavery in place.
Now wait just a cotton picking minute, mister. It was about state's rights (one of those rights just happened to be the ability to own a slave).
Much like the gay marriage issue of today. The Feds are going to legalize it across the board, book it. But our country was not set up that way by the founding fathers.
The current legalization of marijuana movement is how it is supposed to work.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 10:46 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:44 am to MikeBRLA
quote:No I understood his point completely. But you missed mine clearly.
You completely missed the point.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:45 am to Big Scrub TX
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rrect. So let's look at what was being fought for: the south was fighting to keep it's precious chattel slavery in place.
Calling it the war of northern aggression is ridiculous, but whittling the reason of the Civil War down to slavery is just as ridiculous.
Go read a fricking book.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:45 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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The war of Northern Aggression
Give it up, Billy Bob. The war is over, you and your side got your asses handed to you and surrendered in defeat.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:46 am to deathvalleyfreak43
Was that harvey updyke in there?
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