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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **

Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:27 am to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:27 am to
Is the union still saying this is about safety?
Posted by Me Bite
A.K.A. - Bite Me
Member since Oct 2007
7148 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:35 am to
quote:

By the way I crossed today


Is it true they hired you in as a new employee?
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:39 am to
Oh it's about the unions safety alright
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Is the union still saying this is about safety?




They see it as a safety issue
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:50 am to
quote:

I crossed today


Can you explain this process please?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:16 am to
Well I can say it's an aeronautical issue, that doesn't make it one
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73729 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Well I can say it's an aeronautical issue, that doesn't make it one


True. They view their workers are superior and make the safety argument on that.
Posted by Jollyroger
Member since Feb 2015
34 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 9:49 am to
Ur still an employee every thing stays the same. You should contact hr for more info 465-5272 the only thing we lost was vacay the longer we stay out. The rumors about getting fired are false and company reps have already stated harrasment of any kind will not be tolerated. We have laws to protect us we just need to stick together. I go back in tommorow morning. Good luck
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19754 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Thought you weren't a paying member? You still picket?



Nah, I'm in it, but this is changing things. I got in it b/c I was new and didn't want to be that guy. There are a few things that if the union handles appropriately I'll stay but if they give a couple people whose situations I know are extremely unique, I'm out.
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 11:46 am to
I'm getting out ASAP. I'll be "that" bc I have bigger issues to worry about other the frickin union. I have an obligation to my family to provide and protect them and no one is going to tell otherwise.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Ur still an employee every thing stays the same. You should contact hr for more info 465-5272 the only thing we lost was vacay the longer we stay out. The rumors about getting fired are false and company reps have already stated harrasment of any kind will not be tolerated. We have laws to protect us we just need to stick together. I go back in tommorow morning. Good luck


Thanks for this.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Shell is doing everything they can to make us comfortable.
what does this mean?
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11708 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:26 pm to
They haven't found a way to fire these union shills yet?

It's pathetic that they can walk off the job and then walk back to it like they didn't try to screw the employer in the arse.
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:29 pm to
The company knew this was a part of it when they decided to affiliate with usw

I'd guess it's in the contract
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11708 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

The company knew this was a part of it when they decided to affiliate with usw


No, the company is forced to listen to USW if the worker's vote to certify them as the representative. Federal law prevents the employer from refusing to listen.

I HIGHLY doubt the company ran out and begged the USW to infiltrate its facility.

quote:

I'd guess it's in the contract


Walking out and walking back in (striking) is protected by federal law.

Federal law is just as big a problem as the union shills.
This post was edited on 2/28/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8505 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:34 pm to

quote:

Shell is doing everything they can to make us comfortable.

what does this mean?



Bedside tea and masturbatory assistance?
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:36 pm to
So a company is a union company against their will?

Man I am thinking less and less about the union the more I learn
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11708 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

So a company is a union company against their will?


In almost all cases, that is true. The workers vote to certify, and then the company is forced to deal with the union.

That's why Wal-Mart goes out of its way to stop any union movement among its workers before it even really begins. They don't want to be forced to deal with the union.

There are some exceptions, such as the recent attempt to unionize the car plant in Tennessee. In that case, the company actually wanted there workers to unionize. But, it was a German auto company who is used to dealing with unions (work councils) under German law.

In America, no private company should want to be infiltrated by a union.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7558 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:41 pm to
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It's pathetic that they can walk off the job and then walk back to it like they didn't try to screw the employer in the arse.


Many of the operators and maintenance guys didn't want to strike, but, they waived the right to refuse to strike when the majority of dues paying members elected to be part of National Oil Bargaining.

Does anyone know what happens if a local refuses to follow strike orders?
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

That's why Wal-Mart goes out of its way to stop any union movement among its workers before it even really begins. They don't want to be forced to deal with the union
how does Walmart do this?

quote:

In America, no private company should want to be infiltrated by a union.
And it's fricked up that they can be against their will
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