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Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:26 pm to Bestbank Tiger
440 thousand according to whose statistics? Do you know anything about how those numbers are arrived at? Neither does the CDC? It has been hovering around that number for the past ten years. I thought smoking rates have gone down. So how come lung cancer rates have gone up at the same time? Well, gosh darn it I just found the page with the CDC numbers. They cover 2000 to 2004: LINK /
Just went to this page that was up last year and none of the numbers have been revised. They are still showing their 2000 to 2004 made up, bogus numbers:LINK
Just went to this page that was up last year and none of the numbers have been revised. They are still showing their 2000 to 2004 made up, bogus numbers:LINK
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:38 pm to boing007
What's the big deal? The smokers can go outside on the patio/balcony and smoke.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:45 pm to ballscaster
Seven City Councillors at City Hall decided it. Not a very large number. Time for a tax revolt. Not just for smokers.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:52 pm to tke_swamprat
Or the non-smokers can go outside and not smoke. What's the big deal?
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:55 pm to The Dudes Rug
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60 pages of weak minded smokers melting. LOL
not true at all. the vast majority of people anti-ban are not smokers
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:56 pm to EmperorGout
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you're totally right, this crosses the final moral Rubicon and will lead to the collapse of the republic because smokers have to walk 20 feet to light up
the rubicon was already crossed
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:58 pm to ballscaster
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And the people decide how those are abridged
i don't think you know how "rights" work
the entire point of rights is avoid tyranny of the masses
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:59 pm to ballscaster
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You don't have the constitutional right to serve liquor in a place that allows smoking
i believe that you do
or should
Posted on 1/25/15 at 9:00 pm to tke_swamprat
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The smokers can go outside on the patio/balcony and smoke.
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What's the big deal?
business should have the right to decide if smoking is or isn't allowed. that's the "big deal"
there were already smoke-free bars. using government to distort the market so that one side can "win" the debate is wrong
Posted on 1/25/15 at 9:07 pm to ballscaster
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ballscaster
And you've called yourself a small gov't conservative before.
You really don't understand what rights mean and how precious property rights are.
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the present solution is to go outside to smoke.
If its not your business, it's not your decision to make on customers smoking inside the establishment.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 9:21 pm to boing007
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440 thousand according to whose statistics? Do you know anything about how those numbers are arrived at? Neither does the CDC? It has been hovering around that number for the past ten years. I thought smoking rates have gone down. So how come lung cancer rates have gone up at the same time?
Dunno anything about the numbers (I know your reply was to the thread and not me). I would guess one reason, in addition to old data, is lung cancer is a lagging indicator. Think how long it takes smokers to develop cancer, and secondhand smoke takes even longer to kill people. So a drop in smoking won't yield a drop in lung cancer for decades.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 9:49 pm to Bestbank Tiger
i imagine a large # of the 440k are also related to heart issues, which is also a fat person's disease
Posted on 1/25/15 at 11:50 pm to boing007
quote:Outside of bitching and downvoting on message boards, not a single one of you will do a damn thing about this, and you all know it. Why? Because you all are incredibly dishonest about this issue which is, though you won't admit it, meaningless to you. There are regulations concerning what content food served can have, to whom you can serve what kinds of beverages, and even how many people are allowed in your restaurant/bar at a time. This smoking ban means no more or less to you than do the three items above, and your actions going forward will do nothing less than prove me 100% right, and I defy you all to prove me the least bit wrong.
Seven City Councillors at City Hall decided it. Not a very large number. Time for a tax revolt. Not just for smokers.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 11:53 pm to Sentrius
quote:It's you. There is no ban on smoking on private property.
You really don't understand what rights mean and how precious property rights are.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:09 am to ballscaster
In a sense you are right. Of all the things jacked up in the City of New Orleans, the smoking ban is meaningless compared to rampant crime, horrible schools, and lack of any economic future. Sadly, based on the demographics of the city as reflected by its representatives who will do all in their power to to steal and enrich their friends, little to nothing can be done except to move away like most of the functional have done in the past half century.
This post was edited on 1/26/15 at 10:11 am
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