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re: what should be the PATS penalty for the illegal equipment?

Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:20 am to
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:20 am to
I mean....

Repeat offenders now...
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:21 am to
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. Is there any precedent for this?


for the pats cheating? yes, and its not much.

if the saints got caught doing this, bulldoze the dome and cut SP's head off.

Posted by sassyLSU
Lake Charles, La.
Member since May 2011
2080 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:24 am to
quote:

. Is there any precedent for this?


Aaron Rogers admitted he did it.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:26 am to
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it will be interesting if they use as defense Aaron Rogers confession.

Does Green Bay have to pay the same penalty?


No. Green Bay didn't actually get caught.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:28 am to
Belichik should miss next season. Habitual offender.
Posted by MadMaxwell
The Motherland
Member since Jul 2009
4599 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:33 am to
2 game suspension followed by a massive media outcry followed by an indefinite suspension followed by a "No More" public service announcement campaign.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71710 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:50 am to
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No. Green Bay didn't actually get caught.





He just admitted to it, and apparently they've had some balls rejected in the past.

Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:31 am to
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He just admitted to it, and apparently they've had some balls rejected in the past.


The situations are different. If the Patriots had submitted under-pressurized balls before the game, and the refs said they were okay then it's on the refs. I'm not advocating trying to cheat the system, but that's the point of an inspection. If a team wants to push the limits on the extremes of the system, that's fine to me. Don't get them inspected THEN alter the balls though. That's not just trying to push the envelope. That is blatant subversion of the process.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:37 am to
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ESPN Article with Video Link Showing Balls Being Heated Up


Seeing this got me thinking about the Patriots situation. When the balls cool down, the pressure will decrease. Cold air condenses meaning it takes up less space, thus exerting less pressure on its surroundings, which is what PSI measures. Patriot footballs which were sitting inside the locker room (or other interior area at room temperature (probably around 70 degrees Fahrenheit) would have less pressure after 5 hours (time from inspection until halftime guesstimate) outside at much lower temperatures. Is it 2 PSI worth of pressure loss? I doubt it, but I'm not sure. If someone really wanted to, he/she could use simple formulas relating temperature of air, pressure, and other stuff (the most basic things of thermodynamics, if they even qualify as that) to actually check this...but I don't feel like it.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67143 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:24 am to
$25k fine
Posted by Kato
Sec 102
Member since Nov 2006
2797 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:40 am to
quote:

2 game suspension followed by a massive media outcry followed by an indefinite suspension followed by a "No More" public service announcement campaign.


Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
7882 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:52 am to
What about for repeat and habitual offenders?
Posted by titmouse
a tree branch above your car
Member since May 2006
6382 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:58 am to
Billy is forced to wear a tailored suit during the entire 2015 season.

Even pressers
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76657 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:01 am to
The Pats stockpile draft picks so they can cheat and not feel the effects.

Solid plan IMO
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75170 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:13 am to
They should get the death penalty
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:15 am to
Place the Pats in the AFL
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27353 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:17 am to
Public execution.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:19 am to
quote:

literally posted Aaron Rodgers bragging about attempting and succeeding to breaking this exact rule. 


Packers, Ravens, Jets, Titans, and Giants all admitted to bounties or targeting players, but none of them were even investigated.

We both know the furor doesnt care about applying the law equally.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:20 am to
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Is it 2 PSI worth of pressure loss? I doubt it, but I'm not sure. If someone really wanted to, he/she could use simple formulas relating temperature of air, pressure, and other stuff (the most basic things of thermodynamics, if they even qualify as that) to actually check this...but I don't feel like it.


A Boston professor did this and it didn't come close to the 16% variation
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:35 am to
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what should be the PATS penalty for the illegal equipment?



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