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re: Power 5 schools vote to pay their players
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:48 pm to Walking the Earth
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:48 pm to Walking the Earth
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I also confess that I don't understand the tweet in the OP. Does that mean that baseball players, for instance, and other sports that operate on the partial scholarship system will now be, in effect, fully funding their athletes?
Also, does it mean the schools HAVE to pay them, and do they have to pay them the same amount.
What happens if a school decides they don't want to pay athletes? Does the NCAA kick them out?
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:49 pm to Walking the Earth
Even then, the schools have to get that money from somewhere.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:54 pm to alabamabuckeye
These guys aren't allowed to have part time jobs like some of us
bullshite. I played football in college and worked 80 hours a week in the summer and part time in the winter/spring.
bullshite. I played football in college and worked 80 hours a week in the summer and part time in the winter/spring.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:55 pm to Mr Gardoki
True but the difference between giving everybody a few extra grand in spending money and having to effectively give everybody full rides is significant.
Which brings to mind something I've kind of wondered. As I understand it, when an athlete gets a scholarship, it's not like the school puts a zero next to his balance; the athletic department has to write a check for the cost of attendance. If I am reading that correctly, why don't schools simply not accept a check from the AD, simply zero out the athlete's balance like he received the President's Scholarship (or whatever each school calls it) and have the AD use that saved money to "pay" the student.
Which brings to mind something I've kind of wondered. As I understand it, when an athlete gets a scholarship, it's not like the school puts a zero next to his balance; the athletic department has to write a check for the cost of attendance. If I am reading that correctly, why don't schools simply not accept a check from the AD, simply zero out the athlete's balance like he received the President's Scholarship (or whatever each school calls it) and have the AD use that saved money to "pay" the student.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:55 pm to dcrews
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The players are going to blow this money on stupid shite, then complain that their "pay" (and scholarships) aren't enough.
I can confirm this is true. All my teammates on scholarship wasted their off campus checks on stupid shite. When we would get stipends for bowl games they would blow their stipend for the entire trip in one night at a strip club. This money will be mismanaged.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:56 pm to alabamabuckeye
quote:
You have to factor in food expenses, gas, various school supplies, etc.
Meals or a meal plan are already provided to scholarship athletes
Gas? That is not a necessity. And we got travel stipends for Thanksgiving/Christmas.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:56 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Ever been to college? You think rent and food are your only expenses?
They are already paying their room and board. What else is there?
You gotta also remember college athletes basically aren't allowed to work, certainly not enough to make much of a difference.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:57 pm to dcrews
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Because it will never be enough. Give the kids a $1500 stipend, they will say they need $3000. Give them that, they'll say they need $10,000.
What are they going to buy that they aren't already getting?
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:57 pm to CaptainPanic
quote:
Wow. That's fricking stupid
Why?
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:58 pm to Cap Crunch
quote:Ok, so why exactly should a college student have to possibly sacrifice owning a car just to play a sport?
Believe it or not there are college students that can make it through college without cars
That doesn't make sense.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:59 pm to shel311
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You gotta also remember college athletes basically aren't allowed to work, certainly not enough to make much of a difference.
Why do people keep repeating this as if its true?
I played football in college and worked 80 hours a week for the Fort Worth Cats Baseball team in the summer.
In the winter/spring I also worked part time at various places.
Hell one day after an offseason workout we had a guy from Pizza Hut Park come in telling us all that they were hiring us to do security at events there throughout the Spring and Summer. Hell at least 1/3 of the team ended up doing that, from the star players to the benchwarmers.
You are allowed to work in the offseason. It's just not feasible during the season.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 4:59 pm to dcrews
quote:Who is paying for the vehicle that gas is going in and the auto insurance for the vehicle that gas is going in?
Only one of these things isn't covered, gas.
That's 3 possible expenses right there.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:00 pm to shel311
quote:
Ok, so why exactly should a college student have to possibly sacrifice owning a car just to play a sport?
It's called personal responsibility
I played football in college, worked in the offseason, and had a car.
I SAVED my money that I made in the offseason so I could have money in the bank during the season when I couldn't work.
Boo hoo if these guys waste all their money meant for car/gas and couldn't manage/budget/save it. Those scholarship players got big off campus checks every month that was more than enough to cover rent/food, so if they had no money for gas it was their fault for being financial retards.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:01 pm to RollTide1987
Some of these kids have nothing; their families have nothing. Yeah, there are many, maybe even most, whose families are in good shape, or good enough shape, but there are plenty who have nothing. Even Dabo's mom had to live with him in his dorm room because they had nothing. Why begrudge them a few thousand dollars?
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:01 pm to shel311
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Who is paying for the vehicle that gas is going in and the auto insurance for the vehicle that gas is going in?
That's 3 possible expenses right there.
The fact that you are advocating the school/athletic department paying for cars and insurance for its players is telling me that you are not reasonable enough to discuss these issues with
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:03 pm to RollTide1987
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There's a difference between a walk on and a starting QB who, when he is not studying for exams, is studying game film to improve his technique and decision making skills.
A lot of our better players worked in the summer.
There were a couple of my teammates, now in the NFL, who worked with me at Colonial Country Club one summer.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:06 pm to shel311
quote:
Ok, so why exactly should a college student have to possibly sacrifice owning a car just to play a sport?
I'm not saying that. I'm just wondering where that falls under the cost of attendance
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:07 pm to goldennugget
quote:Pretty sure it's only $2,000 above their scholarship.
Why do people keep repeating this as if its true?
quote:That's irrelevant to my point, I asked why should doing one thing not allow you to do the other? That's the point.
It's called personal responsibility
quote:Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
The fact that you are advocating the school/athletic department paying for cars and insurance for its players is telling me that you are not reasonable enough to discuss these issues with
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:07 pm to dcrews
quote:
What are they going to buy that they aren't already getting?
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:08 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:Did you post this in 1950?
It's a university with sports teams, not sports teams with a university
It's not that and hasn't been for a long time, not sure why we pretend that it is.
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