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HS Basketball Rules Question - strange scenario
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:47 am
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:47 am
Note that this didn't happen, but became part of a "what if" discussion earlier this week following a game.
- Team A is inbounding the ball under their own basket.
- Team A throws inbound outlet pass to Player A5 in the backcourt.
- Player A5 makes basket on Team B goal
Obviously this is two points for Team B...but what would have happened if a spectator had run onto the court and stopped the play before the basket?
Usually fan or coach interference is a technical and ejection from facility, but that's for interfering with the opponent.
- Team A is inbounding the ball under their own basket.
- Team A throws inbound outlet pass to Player A5 in the backcourt.
- Player A5 makes basket on Team B goal
Obviously this is two points for Team B...but what would have happened if a spectator had run onto the court and stopped the play before the basket?
Usually fan or coach interference is a technical and ejection from facility, but that's for interfering with the opponent.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:49 am to Golfer
They'd probably just count the bucket and eject the fan. If it were a coach or other player from the bench then a technical would be issued on top of the counted bucket
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:49 am to Golfer
coach would get to shoot the technical FTs and the fan would have to go tothe table before checking in
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:49 am to Golfer
Just so I understand better, a fan just runs up and tries to block the wide open layup on the wrong goal?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:50 am to Rig
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They'd probably just count the bucket and eject the fan
How would they know that Player A5 would have made the bucket?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:50 am to Pintail
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Just so I understand better, a fan just runs up and tries to block the wide open layup on the wrong goal?
Yea. And succeeds in stopping the wrong goal basket.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 11:51 am
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:54 am to Golfer
Techinal Foul on the team and ejection. Regardless, its still interference on the game/unsportsmanlike conduct. The other team gets 2 shots, and possession of the ball.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:58 am to southernelite
That's what we assumed would occur..then it divulged into "would you risk that in a close game"
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:03 pm to Golfer
Its the only call you can make though. What else are you going to call? You can't just award the other team points as you see fit. You can't pretend it didn't happen. In my mind, its the only logical call to make.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:17 pm to Golfer
Team A should automatically lose for doing such a stupid thing. I can understand shooting in the wrong basket at 6, 7, 8 years old, but not in high school. I'm sure it's happened before, but it's certainly highly unlikely to take place.
Probably just as unlikely as a fan running onto the court to reject a players shot.
Probably just as unlikely as a fan running onto the court to reject a players shot.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:20 pm to Golfer
More important question. What were ya'll drinking while having this profound discussion?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 12:57 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Team A should automatically lose for doing such a stupid thing. I can understand shooting in the wrong basket at 6, 7, 8 years old, but not in high school. I'm sure it's happened before, but it's certainly highly unlikely to take place.
Well it happened with a 7A ranked team in Alabama earlier this week. The team ran an inbounds play similar to a press break play and there was a substitution confusion before the inbounds.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 1:43 pm to Golfer
My main question is how a fan would ever be able to react fast enough to rush onto the floor on an inbounds pass under your defensive goal.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 2:13 pm to DoreonthePlains
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My main question is how a fan would ever be able to react fast enough to rush onto the floor on an inbounds pass under your defensive goal.
It was under their offensive goal. Outlet pass went to just beyond the half court line into the backcourt. So a fan in a HS gym could easily run onto the court in time to interfere.
The inbounds play was essentially the same set as one of the press break plays. Kid came in during the dead ball and had a herp derp.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 2:49 pm to Golfer
Ah, gotcha. I crossed my wires on the goal the team was inbounding from. Apologies.
But yes, I think it would be handled the same as any other court interference with the team the fan interfered for being hit with the tech.
But yes, I think it would be handled the same as any other court interference with the team the fan interfered for being hit with the tech.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 2:55 pm to DoreonthePlains
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but what would have happened if a spectator had run onto the court and stopped the play before the basket?
I've seen this happen many times and I've officiated in a couple of games in which this happened. If it's a random spectator, game is stopped and the spectator is escorted out of the building. The ball is then inbounded from the next appropriate location depending upon where the ball/player was when play was stopped. That's it. Based on the OP's description, that's what would happen.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:17 pm to DoreonthePlains
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But yes, I think it would be handled the same as any other court interference with the team the fan interfered for being hit with the tech.
The point was then made that "how would you know its a fan for that team"? Especially in a rival game (like this game was)...people at weekday HS basketball games are in all type of clothes, team colors and not.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:38 pm to Golfer
They would simply eject the fan and move on with the game. Same as a streaker in soccer.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:44 pm to Golfer
We had a cop run on the court and caused a scene because didnt like way coach was yelling at players. Nothing vicious about yelling and late n game he did the grab arm and did a hurry up and sub in game (decided to do sub while free throw was in air so wanted to get player in if it went in for defensive sub)
cop ran over and said thay hc yanked the player (coaches daughter btw ) and said if he touched another kid that coach was coming with him in cuffs.
it was ridiculous.
I tried to get in between them as asst coach. And cop grabbed my hands like was gonna cuff me which caused parents to run to bench and stand up for me because i didnt do anything but try to calm the cop down and he put his hands on me.
So the refs stopped the game for first place in district and 4 point game with about 2 min to go and suspended game until 2 days later and no onr was allowed in gym but players and coaches.
they tried to give us a technical until review of tape showed their school hired cop for game was the cause of the debacle for running onto court. But if it would not have been4 recording they were gonna make us forfiet game sine we had parents on the floor.
Of course even though their cop caused scene they ddint get any tech or let us shoot free throws again that he obviously distracted starting a scrum on the bench.
Only thinf they got was that cop was no longer allowed t work games that involved the two teams.
Golfer ill try to find the tape and show it to ya. Pretty funny stuff. When the refs kept saying we had to forfeit game cause our parents and wouldnt talk to me i just went to scores table and kept hitting the buzzer until they would come back and talk to me. So during confusion you just hear an annoying horn unti the home teams ad came and unplugged the board so i couldnt keep hittinf it.
cop ran over and said thay hc yanked the player (coaches daughter btw ) and said if he touched another kid that coach was coming with him in cuffs.
it was ridiculous.
I tried to get in between them as asst coach. And cop grabbed my hands like was gonna cuff me which caused parents to run to bench and stand up for me because i didnt do anything but try to calm the cop down and he put his hands on me.
So the refs stopped the game for first place in district and 4 point game with about 2 min to go and suspended game until 2 days later and no onr was allowed in gym but players and coaches.
they tried to give us a technical until review of tape showed their school hired cop for game was the cause of the debacle for running onto court. But if it would not have been4 recording they were gonna make us forfiet game sine we had parents on the floor.
Of course even though their cop caused scene they ddint get any tech or let us shoot free throws again that he obviously distracted starting a scrum on the bench.
Only thinf they got was that cop was no longer allowed t work games that involved the two teams.
Golfer ill try to find the tape and show it to ya. Pretty funny stuff. When the refs kept saying we had to forfeit game cause our parents and wouldnt talk to me i just went to scores table and kept hitting the buzzer until they would come back and talk to me. So during confusion you just hear an annoying horn unti the home teams ad came and unplugged the board so i couldnt keep hittinf it.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:56 pm to Golfer
quote:
Note that this didn't happen, but became part of a "what if" discussion earlier this week following a game.
- Team A is inbounding the ball under their own basket.
- Team A throws inbound outlet pass to Player A5 in the backcourt.
- Player A5 makes basket on Team B goal
Obviously this is two points for Team B...but what would have happened if a spectator had run onto the court and stopped the play before the basket?
Usually fan or coach interference is a technical and ejection from facility, but that's for interfering with the opponent.
Good Question for Mr. Keith Alexander with LHSAA
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