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re: Miles responds to Michael Cauble's criticism of the offense, and fear of passing
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:34 am to JaxTiger10
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:34 am to JaxTiger10
In 2011 lee played well overall.but he did have bad games. If you cant see this you dont know football, period.
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:37 am to ShortyRob
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Jax seemed to think posting a couple of sub 50% games, despite having 4 games over 70% and being the most efficient guy in the nation, is grounds for putting a QB in the witness protection program.
When did i say that? I just said Lee did have bad games. I thought lee had earned the right to keep starting, that doesnt mean he didnt have a couple bad games.
When did i say Jennings was good or defend his play? Youre stupid
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 8:37 am
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:43 am to ShortyRob
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LOL. Jennings completed 50% or less 6 times this year and couldn't be pried off the field with a goddamned crowbar. He completed more than 60% of his passes ONCE!!!!!
Right because the situations were the same. This years backup isnt a senior with tons of experience.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:54 am to JaxTiger10
I didn't say he had 8 perfect games you moron. Let it go. Your stupidity is painful.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:08 am to Tiger Ryno
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the problem isn't that Les doesn't call enough pass plays. that is the wrong question
exactly
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The Questions that SHOULD BE ASKED OF MILES is why the hell can you not develop more of a passing game?
I agree...but Miles answered that. You just didn't like his answer. He said directly that the issues were a QB development issue.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:24 am to Cs
quote:You should know by now that Miles lives in his own circular world, full of obstinate, contrarian views, and surrounds himself with yes men. he can't see the forest for the trees, even when all the birds in the trees are screaming at him in their loudest voice. It's not surprising at all to me that he thinks the running game is the shits, it's a fate 'de compli, he believes it and then sees it.
he overt problem with this explanation is that we weren't "ripping off runs going up and down the field" against teams with above average defenses, such as Alabama and Arkansas. Yet, even when that didn't work, we obstinately stuck with it.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:31 am to BeeFense5
quote:He's arguing, I think, that if Jennings sucked so bad at passing, which we all agree, then WTF was he even doing on the field? If the QB was going to hand off the ball or run the ball in a QB option, why not give it to the guy who has better running skills and could actually be a threat Passing (even if you are just trying to fool the defense)?
LOL. Jennings completed 50% or less 6 times this year and couldn't be pried off the field with a goddamned crowbar. He completed more than 60% of his passes ONCE!!!!!
Is anyone arguing that Jennings was good last year? Not sure what your point is.
Jennings was absolutely NO THREAT to do anything this year, and defenses just pinned their ears back. We were the easiest team in CFB to defend this year, blatantly transparent and unimaginative.
Perhaps our offensive strategy could use a little big more creativity, deception, and progressive thinking. That's not too much to ask for a supposedly "TOP 5" program (which we really are not) with coaches getting paid millions of dollars a year.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 9:33 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Tiger_n_ATL
Ah, this must be a magicial week for one of the most negative LSU "fans" out there.
I know you are beyond giddy.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:14 am to Cs
the problem is the style of offense that CLM stubbornly sticks with. You can not be successful without a competent passer.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:18 am to tigerfoot
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We had no other choice, I think it is terrible we didnt but if you cant understand Les and his explanation I dont know what to say....you cant just throw it to throw it when you cant throw it.......
fans on here want change when things are going wrong, even if there is evidence that that change would be for the worse.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:27 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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If the QB was going to hand off the ball or run the ball in a QB option, why not give it to the guy who has better running skills and could actually be a threat Passing (even if you are just trying to fool the defense)?
Jennings was absolutely NO THREAT to do anything this year, and defenses just pinned their ears back. We were the easiest team in CFB to defend this year, blatantly transparent and unimaginative.
Perhaps our offensive strategy could use a little big more creativity, deception, and progressive thinking. That's not too much to ask for a supposedly "TOP 5" program (which we really are not) with coaches getting paid millions of dollars a year.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:56 am to growler
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the problem is the style of offense that CLM stubbornly sticks with. You can not be successful without a competent passer.
No offense in the country would be.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:23 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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He's arguing, I think, that if Jennings sucked so bad at passing, which we all agree, then WTF was he even doing on the field? If the QB was going to hand off the ball or run the ball in a QB option, why not give it to the guy who has better running skills and could actually be a threat Passing (even if you are just trying to fool the defense)?
I think you need to accept the real possibility that Harris was not capable of successfully executing the running game. He wasn't able to identify the fronts and get LSU into the right running play at the line like Jennings was.
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Jennings was absolutely NO THREAT to do anything this year, and defenses just pinned their ears back. We were the easiest team in CFB to defend this year, blatantly transparent and unimaginative.
We all know what Jennings was. But, what you choose to ignore is what this team was without a running game. It was the team against Arkansas...a disaster.
In other words, there was no solution. We were either going to have a QB who is limited in the psasing game but capable of executing the running game...or a QB who is an obviously talented passer who while being a very talented thrower, couldn't handle the protection calls in the passing game nor the adjustment requirements of the running game.
Think back to the game prior to MSU. Everyone was bitching about us not "developing the passing game" and instead just running the ball against a clearly inferior defense. In hindsight, I think our coaching staff knew that we were going to have problems in the passing game. And, they were trying to get the running game going because we were a lot more likely to be dominant in that phase of the game (Remember that early in the season, we weren't a great running team).
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 11:24 am
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:36 am to LNCHBOX
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didn't say he had 8 perfect games you moron. Let it go. Your stupidity is painful
I stated facts you dumb count.its fact that Lee had bad games in 2011.deal with it boy
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:38 am to JaxTiger10
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:39 am to YouAre8Up
Nope. Just calling an ignorant dumbass, an ignorant dumbass.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:42 am to JaxTiger10
Every time you post you just make yourself look more stupid. Congrats I guess.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:46 am to moneyg
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moneyg
Very good post, and I feel that it pretty much went down just like you said. I still say that when Jennings was playing so poorly there was no good excuse to not get Harris into the game.
Also, starting with that ULM game I think the offensive shift is part of what masked big deficiencies in our defense. The LSU games against Bama and Ole Miss have to have way fewer possessions by both teams as compared with normal SEC games, say Bama and Miss State. That made Chief's defense look much better than they actually were. Now don't get me wrong, I do think that the defense played well against Bama and Ole Miss. But they didn't have to play nearly as many possessions as most other defenses.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:50 am to Choupique19
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Very good post, and I feel that it pretty much went down just like you said. I still say that when Jennings was playing so poorly there was no good excuse to not get Harris into the game.
I agree. But, I would have made that change for 2015...not 2014. It really could have been worse in the short term. The reality now, is that while Harris may figure out the basics of being a QB prior to 2015, he still has very little experience. There was a cost to playing to win in 2014.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:55 am to moneyg
Yep. You could see times against ULM and a couple of important Auburn 2nd down plays that Harris went the wrong way on a handoff. That's not good at all. However, I saw him against Sam Houston St, Miss St, and New Mexico. It's not like he wasn't capable of doing anything. He could make plays, and I think the more reps he got he would have picked up the offense much quicker.
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