Started By
Message

re: Why the hate on Brick?

Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:47 pm to
[quote]If you thought 3rd and Chavis was bad go look at Bricks stats as a DC at Baylor. [/quote

imo, those shouldn't count that much. how long ago was that? and Baylor never gave a shite about defense and was not the "power" they are today. Baylor got the athletes that didn't want to go to tejas, okie, okie lite, tejas tech or aggie.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16639 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Baylor got the athletes that didn't want to go to tejas, okie, okie lite, tejas tech or aggie.


So does TCU now . . . just sayin'.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58175 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

So does TCU now . . . just sayin'.




dude...

TCU is getting WAY better players than Baylor was at that time.

I don't think you realize just how far behind the game they were back then.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

So does TCU now . . . just sayin'


nah, TCU gets a lot better athletes than they used to. their HC, their location and Tejas U being a dumpster fire has moved them way up in the pecking order in Texas. Baylor does too it's just their HC doesn't give a shite about defense. he recruits offense players only (pretty much)
Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4769 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

why?


For all the reasons i listed after the first sentence

quote:

cool


Very cool. Coach O would be a phenomenal addition

quote:

It was a total failure and he hasn't gotten a look as a DC since.


quote:

Miss St has had 2 chances to hire him as DC


Interesting....

quote:

very, very debatable



Mingo, Brockers, Ferguson, etc say hi

quote:

Its probably an even worse move.


why? (swidt?)
Posted by AgBank
Dallas
Member since Nov 2012
103 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:03 pm to
Nothing against Brick, but if it is he who gets the nod, the contract likely won't pay what Chavis made or what Shoop would ask for (just my speculation).

Heck, Alleva didn't want to give Chavis very good buyout terms.

So, if Brick gets the nod, do you get the feeling Alleva is keeping Les on a tighter leash?
Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4769 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:09 pm to
To me if Brick gets the nod it may be similar to the Studrawa deal. LSU may be looking to hire big for the following year. Just maybe
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:11 pm to
He has sucked in his previous stints at DC and he isn't even a good DL coach.

LSU has been known for elite DLs for the past decade. Since he has been here the DL has gotten worse and worse. Every recruit he has personally recruited and coached all the years he was here have been huge underacheivers and busts
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14914 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:18 pm to
The fact that he entertained leaving with Chavis would be enough for most coaches to release him much less promote him to DC-
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14914 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

may be looking to hire big for the following year. Just maybe


We don't have a year to waste unless you are indicating the big hire would be for HC
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42259 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:27 pm to
It's simple

LSU shouldn't have to settle for a DC
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54264 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:29 pm to
Its LSU.

We should not have to promote from within for a big Coordinator job.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158834 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Mingo,


very under developed, was drafted on his freak athletic ability. It took a season and a half for them to get him properly coached up technique wise



quote:

Ferguson


I guess I can pull the article where they said he came in with awful technique as well

Name the other 4-5 star kids that have come in recent years we can't even get on the field to just get a few reps
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

I don't think it'd be a bad promotion at all


I think you are mistaken

quote:

It could allow for Coach O to come aboard as well


So would a real DC hire and moving Ensminger into the office. All our TE's do is block. Have Grimes coach them. If they choose to incorporate them into the passing game, give them to Henry. Ensminger is useless. He is supposedly a TE coach yet we never have any good TE's.

quote:

He's been a DC


If you are going to bring it up, bring up his level of success.

quote:

he played for and coached with Chavis


Chavis did great things, but his 2 minute D and 3rd down struggles are very real. We get little pressure and if not for a very high level of talent, his D was very bad. Look at the beginning of 2014. Young guys not ready to dominate and it couldn't stop anybody. No in game adjustments. Was crazy good against the spread though.

quote:

he develops talent well


No he doesn't. Brockers and Mingo are the outliers and he inherited them. Montgomery and Logan both declined under him. Freak, Rasco, Hunter, Allen, and now Herron, Gilmore, Bain. All of these guys were highly coveted and none have shown anywhere close to the potential they were supposed to have.

Plus on almost every major 5* recruit we assign him to, he finishes second. LSU's D finished tied for 103rd in sacks., had the 46th ranked rush Def and was 64th in TFL.

That's where he has brought DLineU.

Why the love?


Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6100 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Dr RC


Aggie fans would love it, I am sure.

It would be like Texas A&M got the superhero:



And we promoted his sidekick:


Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73661 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

I don't think it'd be a bad promotion at all.


Posted by Tigersport2014
Member since Aug 2014
824 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:53 pm to
Dunno. Brick is solid. Never needs painting.
Posted by Chase.E.Chabaud
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
80 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:00 pm to
Yeah, over 15 years ago. before he coached in the NFL, the SEC. You cant judge him on that.

I KNOW Coach Haley, worked with him for a year. He's a good man and would be an excellent DC. Pair him with an incoming Coach O... you're cooking with more than fire, you're cooking with a flamethrower.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 8:03 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

But what would Kevin Mawae know




Apparently not much Mr hall of fame should worry about his own coaching career
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

KNOW Coach Haley, worked with him for a year. He's a good man and would be an excellent DC. Pair him with an incoming Coach O... you're cooking with more than fire, you're cooking with a flamethrower




Really? So what defense does brick generally run?

Does LSU have the athletes on scholarship for bricks scheme?

Is it similar to a chavis defense?
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram