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re: Why has the Dow Jones done so well under the two recent Democratic presidents?

Posted on 12/26/14 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by red_giraffe
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 2:55 pm to
And who allowed the banks to make all the predatory loans that they knew they shouldnt have been making? Who allows all the banks to be dumb fricks and count the interest owed as money and continue to make more predatory loans over and over until people defaulted and couldn't pay it back?

Simple answer: President Bush
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Simple answer: President Bush


Simple answers usually come without much thought. The problem was years in the making under Republican and Democrat presidents and congress.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 3:01 pm to
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And who allowed the banks to make all the predatory loans that they knew they shouldnt have been making? Who allows all the banks to be dumb fricks and count the interest owed as money and continue to make more predatory loans over and over until people defaulted and couldn't pay it back?

Simple answer: President Bush


Incorrect, everyone was in on the game on both sides.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43166 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 3:08 pm to
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And who allowed the banks to make all the predatory loans that they knew they shouldnt have been making? Who allows all the banks to be dumb fricks and count the interest owed as money and continue to make more predatory loans over and over until people defaulted and couldn't pay it back?

Simple answer: President Bush

Oh good GOD!!

The banking collapse was brought about by federal housing policies that were the brainchild of DEMs - Bush fought against them constantly - at least a dozen times asking for those policies to be corrected.

Ever hear of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd???

Those are your villains if you want to point at a central entity - certainly not President Bush.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 3:10 pm to
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And who allowed the banks to make all the predatory loans that they knew they shouldnt have been making? Who allows all the banks to be dumb fricks and count the interest owed as money and continue to make more predatory loans over and over until people defaulted and couldn't pay it back?

Simple answer: President Bush




You dumb bastard. Do you even Dodd Fwank bro?
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 3:27 pm to
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And who allowed the banks to make all the predatory loans that they knew they shouldnt have been making? Who allows all the banks to be dumb fricks and count the interest owed as money and continue to make more predatory loans over and over until people defaulted and couldn't pay it back?

Simple answer: President Bush


The answer isn't so simple unless you want to talk about another president.

Clinton
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 4:17 pm to
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Posted by red_giraffe And who allowed the banks to make all the predatory loans that they knew they shouldnt have been making? Who allows all the banks to be dumb fricks and count the interest owed as money and continue to make more predatory loans over and over until people defaulted and couldn't pay it back? Simple answer: President Bush


You aren't really this dumb are you? Subprime markets had been around for decades. In fact GW tried to set up a committee to look into risks to the economy on the part of Fannie and Freddie from such loans. This was circa '03 and was blocked by the congress and the financial services committee led by Barney frank.

Read something you simple minded idiot, and stop watching Rachel Maddow and john stewart
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:13 pm to
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And who allowed the banks to make all the predatory loans that they knew they shouldnt have been making? Who allows all the banks to be dumb fricks and count the interest owed as money and continue to make more predatory loans over and over until people defaulted and couldn't pay it back?


The Community Reinvestment Act? Andrew Cuomo? Barack Obama, who sued CitiBank in 1995 and forced them to lower lending standards?

Let's go with the simple answer that the Obama regime and the media have repeated so frequently that it has become truth in your mind, and ignore the fact that his admin warned multiple times about subprime lending and lack of regulation:


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** 2001 April: The Bush Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”
** 2002 May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)
** 2003 January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years. February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (“Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03) September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations. September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements. October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error. November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)
** 2004 February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83) February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market's] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04) June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)
** 2005 April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05)
** 2007 July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse. August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07) September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before. September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before. December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07
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