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re: Why is wanting better for LSU football a negative?

Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:23 am to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:23 am to
Some people are easily entertained
Posted by ItsThatDude12
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:26 am to
Exactly I don't want to hold on to a coach because of his past accomplishments like Mack Brown and Bobby Bowden. I think two more years is a fair amount of time for Les to compete for another championship.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20452 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:40 am to
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if it's more of the same 9-3 or 8-4 I think it's time to move on in my opinion.

Texas settled into that quagmire-- look where they are now.

Auburn didn't & look where they're at now.


Didn't Auburn go 8-4 this season?
Posted by Tom Ford
Member since Dec 2014
135 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:41 am to
I do not want Les to be fired, but if LSU goes 9-3 or worse again next year, he will definitely feel the heat.
Should someone who wins 9 games a year be on the hot seat? Probably not. But when you get paid 4.5 mil/yr and have a clause in your contract "if I win a NC I become the highest paid coach by $1" that requires a lot of bravado, you better expect a lot of criticism to come with that.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 9:42 am
Posted by richie
Clinton, MS
Member since Sep 2006
12 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:45 am to
If the players that committed early would have stayed, there would have been a major difference in the program. But, can't blame the ones who left because of the contracts they received.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48709 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:50 am to
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You lost yesterday. Shhhhhhh.




I forgot to add "incredibly childish" to your list of attributes, Supafan.



This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:51 am to
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I don't care about other coach


Without providing the same "cupcake" list for all SEC schools, your info is meaningless.

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but that was a great season until the end


13-1, 9-0 and a NR of #2 IS a great season...disappointing ending or not. When and if winning 13 games while playing in the SEC becomes less than a great season, we have truly gone full retard in our college football thought process.

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I'm just posting facts


No, you are cherry picking your facts to support your opinion. Like the LSU OOC schedule or not, it is not worse than other SEC schools and in some cases better. Therefore, your "cupcake" list is meaningless as is the whole point of your post. The fact that LSU has not loss a OOC, regular season game in a decade, is an amazing performance, "cupcakes" included or not.

Wanting LSU to do better is fine. I want LSU to never lose a game. My wanting that, doesn't blind me to the fact that 103-28 overall ranks LSU in the top 3 in the nation. Which is a ranking LSU has NEVER held before for a decade of college football. Our 58-26 in the SEC ranks LSU at #2. Which is a ranking LSU has NEVER had in our history of SEC play.

Complaining bout the QB or the O or the coaching is not a problem. Never ending, continually bad mouthing of a QB or part of the LSU team or coach without noting the success which places LSU in the Top 3-5 of all 120 BCS schools for the past decade is naïve, silly and sad. imo

This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 9:54 am
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:51 am to
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Auburn didn't & look where they're at now.


Same position we are in ?
Posted by jhhingle
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
3113 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:52 am to
Season ticket/suites sales will govern; BTW, still want to know how many of our CLM lovers are such?
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11352 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:54 am to
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Same position we are in ?


Yeah. Playing to a few seconds left in the National championship game last year is "same position we're in"

Dimwit..
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36906 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:54 am to
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Auburn didn't & look where they're at now.


Auburn went 8-5 (4-4) then 3-9 (0-8) then fired their coach. That is a true decline. If LSU follows a similar path then their won't be many, if any, opposed to showing Les the door. But the situations you are comparing are not the same.

Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
11352 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:04 am to
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Auburn went 8-5 (4-4) then 3-9 (0-8) then fired their coach.


Then fired their recent National Championship coach --then a couple a years later returned to the National Championship game and was seconds from winning it.

We are 4-4 and in a tail slide since the National championship debacle and no reason to suppose we're even getting back to Atlanta anytime soon since we clearly can't beat Bama anymore..

So how long do we wait to right the ship?

Death by a thousand cuts you're still as dead as if by a couple.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70992 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:53 am to
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Your inference. I made no mention of such a thing.



They not teach you about context clues at LSU?

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How would you know?



See above question, still applies.

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If you didn't go to LSU and you're calling for the head of the most successful football coach in our university's history,


Not calling for his head yet. Another 8-4 season, and I'd venture to say LSU could do better.

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I've placed no value of being a sidewalk fan against that of being an alumnus.



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To those of you who didn't go to LSU and think Miles is a problem: you're all a bunch of idiots.


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Never will you see another coach glean (no way you savages know what that word means or why it isn't a great word choice in this instance)

lol glean must be your word of the day?

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We are better than you.



Keep dreaming bro.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12275 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:56 am to
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We are 4-4 and in a tail slide since the National championship debacle and no reason to suppose we're even getting back to Atlanta anytime soon since we clearly can't beat Bama anymore..


u gotta love these guys who use their future telling abilities to support their arguement

i heard all this nonsense before in 2008
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7305 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:06 pm to
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This shite of look what he did 7-8 years ago is getting old and loser speak

What a loser ... didn't LSU go undefeated in 2011 and play for the NC (yes, I know the results)? By my math, that's not 7-8 years ago.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18692 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:11 pm to
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It's not a negative, but some on here are completely happy with mediocrity.


Averaging 10 wins a season is not mediocre. LSU won a title 7 years ago, and played for another 4 years later.

This is the first down year in quite some time, and EVERYONE predicted it.

Frankly I think the only reason people have such unrealistic expectations is because of what has happened since Saban arrived at Alabama. They have become our measuring stick.
Posted by ItsThatDude12
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Member since Apr 2009
9927 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:18 pm to
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Frankly I think the only reason people have such unrealistic expectations is because of what has happened since Saban arrived at Alabama. They have become our measuring stick.


I guess the answer is to lower expectations and accept being a middle of the pack SEC team.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18692 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:33 pm to
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I guess the answer is to lower expectations and accept being a middle of the pack SEC team.


LSU is not a middle of the pack program. That doesn't mean they won't have years like this one. They have consistently ranked amongst the top teams in the country.

Many people aren't satisfied if the Tigers aren't playing for a NC every years. Those are the unrealistic expectations I was referring to.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:40 pm to
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I guess the answer is to lower expectations and accept being a middle of the pack SEC team.


What's up strawman??

You're leaving this part out

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Averaging 10 wins a season is not mediocre. LSU won a title 7 years ago, and played for another 4 years later.


Is averaging 9-10 wins a season "middle of the pack" to you?
Posted by ItsThatDude12
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Member since Apr 2009
9927 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:57 pm to
In the SEC 9 wins puts you in the middle of the pack.
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