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How would playing UT in the Texas bowl have helped us in recruiting?

Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted by el duderino III
People's Republic of Austin
Member since Jul 2011
2391 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:04 pm
Imo it really doesn't. There isn't a single recruit in texas who thinks that UT is a better team than us, has been recently, or will be soon, so what do we have to gain? They're decision is based on a lot more than who they think would win head to head. Plus I think the possibility, even if small, of losing to ut far outweighs the benefits. Winning convincingly would just be maintaining the status quo.

Stomping ND would probably help us recruit nationally more than beating UT would help us recruit in texas. And losing would hurt us a hell of a lot less.

On top of that, texas has a considerably better defense than ND. The game would be low scoring and feature two run first offenses with "mobile" yet inept qb's and would probably be about as exciting to high school recruits as a rerun of the 9-6 bama game.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
69112 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:07 pm to
Playing anywhere doesn't help with recruiting anymore. Games are all nationally televised now, it's not 1990 anymore.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:08 pm to
It wouldn't. LSU already has a presence in Texas. I think the recruiting angle is way over blown come bowl time.

I guess if we played in Rose Bowl it would help our California recruiting.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
34127 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:08 pm to
I am glad this has its own thread. I have mentioned this in other threads. This whole hysteria over going to a bowl in Texas helping recruiting is ridiculous and I have yet to have a single person give a good reason as to why it is such a big deal. It is a Rantard creation that people just recite because they have nothing of value to say.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10037 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:14 pm to
I never wanted LSU to play a 6-6 Texas team. Even at 7-5 Notre Dame is still Notre Dame and LSU will derive more from this matchup, both in how ESPN covers it, and in national fan attention.

If LSU couldn't have lucked into playing a higher ranked team, which would have been of optimal benefit to the program, Notre Dame is as good as we could have hoped for.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:15 pm to
It wouldnt
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:16 pm to
I agree. By this logic, LSU needs to play a bowl game in Monroe to reclaim ownership of NE Louisiana.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6870 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:21 pm to


Texas is the second most populated state with largest high school football talent pool. The more exposure the better. I can't believe this is actually being argued. Talk to anyone in marketing about product exposure. Why in the world do beer companies, insurance companies, automobile makers, etc. pour billions into advertising when everyone already knows they exist? Saturate, saturate, saturate and win.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
27284 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

On top of that, texas has a considerably better defense than ND. The game would be low scoring and feature two run first offenses with "mobile" yet inept qb's and would probably be about as exciting to high school recruits as a rerun of the 9-6 bama game.


This is the exact reason why I didn't want us playing Texas. That would be a boring arse game. At least with ND, you get contrasting styles. Bowl games outside of the top few are just consolation games for teams who finished with 6 FBS wins.

Who wants to see a bland exhibition game?
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38537 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:54 pm to
The only way that playing in location X helps recruiting, and it's a miniscule amount, is if a kid or his parents are worried about coming to X school because their friends and family will never get to see them play.

"Coach, I want to come but my friends back home will never be able to go that far to see me play"

"Well son, we played a game in your back yard last January"

That's it. The whole let's schedule a game here "for recruiting purposes" has little if any merit in this day and age
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:58 pm to
I think the difference in kickoff times between both games is the larger determining factor of exposure. Not as much as location. And the main recruiting tool come bowl season is exposure, imo.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 2:00 pm to
I do agree that in the slight chance of losing to Texas that would be more hurtful than elsewhere ha
Posted by The Yetty
Member since Feb 2005
12542 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 2:04 pm to
If you are one of the posters ITT looking for an advantage of having been selected for the Texas Bowl, you should go back and look at the 2016 prospects that attended the game against Wisconsin. Many of the top players in the Houston area attended the game with family and friends who were able to spend some time with players and coaches before and after the game. They would likely do the same had we been in Houston on December 29th. That being said, I'm glad we have the pleasure of going in dry against the Golden Domers.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72068 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:09 pm to
i dont think it is a big deal. We played in texas twice, any recruits for this cycle that havent seen us play would be a long shot anyway.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11480 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:14 pm to
I dont mind the matchup or the venue. Playing at 2:00 on a Tuesday isnt giving the game much national exposure though.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
20102 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:10 pm to
A lot of kids went to the Wisconsin opener this year the turnout would have been bigger for the bowl game against Texas. Recruits from Texas who I would have not been surprised to see in attendance.

Eric Monroe
Deontay Anderson
Daylon Mack
Malik Jefferson
Kendell Sheffield
Ed Oliver
Hanner Shipley
Maea Tuehema
Derrick Tucker
Kendell Jones
Dee Anderson
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13087 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 5:17 pm to
I wanted to play Texas because my dad went there. We could have gone together and it would have been a blast.

I don't see how playing ND would help us nationally more than UT. You know UT is a huge national fan base, right? Probably no smaller than ND, at least not significantly.

We stomped ND less than a decade ago, I want to play Texas.

We do have a stronghold in Texas recruiting, we need to hold it. Strong is there now, they are looking to turn that program around, we can't afford to start losing recruits to them from Texas.
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1599 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:30 pm to
Any posters here recruited by major college football programs? Can programs get recruits on the sidelines or actively recruit during the bowl period? If any and all recruits get a ticket to the game, can they get face-time with coaches and players?

If so, it is arguable the Texas Bowl is very sweet bowl for our LSU Tigers. In addition, LSU would garner exposure all over local media in Houston and throughout Texas.

I live in the Houston area AND LSU and the SEC get surprisingly little attention here IMO... Would enjoy hearing what other LSU alumni in Houston and throughout Texas think.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:03 pm to
LSU can't host recruits at an off campus game, but that doesn't mean that LSU can't hook up recruits with tickets at face value so they can attend the game among the LSU patrons. Recruits could get the opportunity to sit amongst LSU fans and/or players' families. I can't see that being detrimental to LSU's cause. The value of doing this in Houston instead of Nashville is pretty extreme given the known targets of LSU's recruiting.
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