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Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:33 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:36 am to tide06
yeah just because something was positive historically doesn't mean that it's necessary today
unions are vestigial appendages to the american psyche
unions are vestigial appendages to the american psyche
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:37 am to Jim Rockford
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It would really help if yall would educate yourselves the history of the labor movement and how and why unions came to be. It wasn't all that long ago when workers had essentially zero protections.
No, education about a political topic wont happen here, just redundant, ignorant talking points the hive repeats.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:44 am to Lakeboy7
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No, education about a political topic wont happen here, just redundant, ignorant talking points the hive repeats.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:47 am to FightinTigersDammit
You live in Farmerville
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:49 am to Lakeboy7
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You live in Farmerville
And?
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:49 am to Lakeboy7
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No, education about a political topic wont happen here,
wut?
we all know the history. the history is irrelevant today. unions may have had a place 100 years ago. they don't have that place today
Posted on 11/27/14 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Boy your generation just has such a blind and misguided trust of big business. Its not unlike worship. What could go wrong huh?
Sign up an injured worker, not a back sprain but someone that's lost a limb, had a cement mixer dropped on them offshore and they are paralyzed from the waist down, had a logging chain rip their hand off, etc.
You will get to see the real underside of big business, the part where they don't give two shits about people once they cant make them money anymore.
BONUS: You will make a ton more money opposed that ham and egg shite you are doing now.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 10:07 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Unions are supposed to protect workers. Union bosses have exploited the workers as much as the owners.
Very true.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 10:10 am to FightinTigersDammit
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FightinTigersDammit
Find me a place on the lake will ya. The wife and I are wanting to move back home in our retirement years. I got eyes and ears down there now but a couple of more ain't gonna hurt.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 10:37 am to Homesick Tiger
I've never understood public sector unions, seems like a conflict of interest to me.
Like many have said private sector unions were very much needed back in the day to help insure occupational health and safety. Today's unions are fairly toothless for the most part. I'm management now in a partially union facility. Every 3 years contract bargaining takes place (industry wide not site specific) the unions get what the company's offer, nothing more nothing less every time. They still collect dues but really accomplish next to nothing.
Like many have said private sector unions were very much needed back in the day to help insure occupational health and safety. Today's unions are fairly toothless for the most part. I'm management now in a partially union facility. Every 3 years contract bargaining takes place (industry wide not site specific) the unions get what the company's offer, nothing more nothing less every time. They still collect dues but really accomplish next to nothing.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 10:37 am to Homesick Tiger
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Homesick Tiger
Bring plenty of money if you want something on the lake.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:52 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Bring plenty of money if you want something on the lake.
Not an OT baller, just a PT pauper. Will be cashing in the beer and coke cans.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 11:56 am to Lakeboy7
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Boy your generation just has such a blind and misguided trust of big business
Yeah, because everyone who is anti-union is pro-big business
Btw, please show me some examples of what safety measures unions have accomplished in the past decade or two that weren't already against the law or regulated by the govt. Bc, that is what you are arguing the point of a Union is with those examples you have given.
Thanks
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Posted on 11/27/14 at 12:04 pm to Lakeboy7
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Boy your generation just has such a blind and misguided trust of big business. Its not unlike worship. What could go wrong huh?
Sign up an injured worker, not a back sprain but someone that's lost a limb, had a cement mixer dropped on them offshore and they are paralyzed from the waist down, had a logging chain rip their hand off, etc.
You will get to see the real underside of big business, the part where they don't give two shits about people once they cant make them money anymore.
That's what OSHA and worker's comp are for.
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BONUS: You will make a ton more money opposed that ham and egg shite you are doing now.
I'm a lot better off than I would be if my company were unionized. One less hand in my pocket. A union also would have held back my advancement.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 12:10 pm to Bestbank Tiger
If they are a socialist, social democrat, liberal, or anti-corporation it's an easy mindset.
Unions are hated in this country by conservatives because they actually fear workers organizing and challenging capitalism. The idea that the people who labor should get a greater share of profits is hated by conservatives.
Unions are hated in this country by conservatives because they actually fear workers organizing and challenging capitalism. The idea that the people who labor should get a greater share of profits is hated by conservatives.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 12:15 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Unions are hated in this country by conservatives because they actually fear workers organizing and challenging capitalism. The idea that the people who labor should get a greater share of profits is hated by conservatives.
If they were so great, why are union participation rates at the lowest in history
Or why, when given a chance, did 50% of union workers in WI opt out, when Walker got his legislation passed
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:21 pm to weagle99
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I can't relate to the mindset of someone who is pro-Union
I can't relate to the mindset that is incapable of understanding and accepting that their own narrow view of the world is not the only one.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:23 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Lol. Of all people.
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