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re: Good read in "The Advocate" on the QB Quandry

Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:51 am to
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:51 am to
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It's been posted before that he grew up with an affinity for LSU. Not sure how credible that is. Judging by what's available on the free recruiting sites, I don't think there was ever really much to LSU recruiting him (or vice-versa).


you may be totally right
I heard that from some commentator last year ???
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:54 am to
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This is, by far, the exception, not the rule.


Seems like it is becoming more of the rule, just like young QBs in the NFL.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80343 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:04 pm to
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“One thing I have to say about Coach Miles and LSU recruiting: very thorough,” Crowton said. “I’ve been at a lot of places. Coach Miles is very thorough. He knows what he’s looking for. That’s one of his great strengths.” The system works, Crowton said. After all, LSU signed two top-ranked QBs



quote:

Shepard


Given that he didn't throw a pass in 4 years here, this may not be the best example to use in illustrating this staff's ability to evaluate HS QBs.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:07 pm to
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One thing I have to say about Coach Miles and LSU recruiting: very thorough,” Crowton said. “I’ve been at a lot of places. Coach Miles is very thorough. He knows what he’s looking for. That’s one of his great strengths.” The system works, Crowton said. After all, LSU signed two top-ranked QBs


How did that work out ?
Posted by Manatee
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
415 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:19 pm to
Agreed, even though now there are QB's ready to play as freshmen this is not typical. Their analysis of what happened with Perilloux is spot on.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26762 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:38 pm to
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This is, by far, the exception, not the rule.


Obviously it's not the rule, but it's not a big exception either.

Jared Goff true freshman
Jameis Winston redshirt
Anu Solomon redshirt freshman
Rakeem Cato was a true freshman
Aaron Murray was a redshirt freshman
Johnny Manziel redshirt freshman
Brett Hundley redshirt freshman
Marcus Mariota redshirt freshman
JT Barrett redshirt freshman
Braxton Miller true freshman
Brad Kaaya true freshman
Deshaun Watson true freshman
Andrew Luck redshirt freshman
RG3 true freshman
Teddy Bridgewater true freshman
Sefo Leifau true freshman
Christian Hackenberg true freshman
Brett Smith true freshman
Nathan Scheelhasse redshirt freshman
John O'Korn true freshman
Taysom Hill sophomore
James Franklin sophomore
Connor Shaw sophomore

Just over the past 5-6 years. These are the more notable guys, but there are also others that I don't feel like writing down. Also, I only listed first year or second year students.
Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow
Cosmic Ray's Starlight Cafe
Member since Jun 2012
6847 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:41 pm to
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The "youth" crap is a cop out. RS Freshmen and Sophomores are leading FBS teams all over the country. We don't need Heisman performances to win games. 


This has been a go to excuse mitch like the rebuilding one. Plenty of coaches manage to get it done, ours just doesn't or can't.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Looking at the offensive production of last years players
quote:

The talent was there, but the execution was not.


You've got to be freaking shitting me...you don't think our offense executed last year?

Mother of God...
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:44 pm to
AJ is a lot like JJ so far in that he hasbt improved.
That's what is alarming.

Hate or love JL, at least he was a better an day he left than he was day he arrived.
Same can be said or ZMett.

You gotta improve and grow is the point.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15579 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:19 pm to
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We have o-line problems... what's the "cop out" there?


O-Line coach just got fired, adjusting to new coach, new coach hasn't had the opportunity to work with his own recruits yet.

ETA: FWIW, they're playing better than the last couple years.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57581 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Manziel wanted to come to LSU?


Yes, and so did RGIII.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4623 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:31 pm to
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Prescott, wanted to play QB for LSU,
we said NO QB


Wrong. Prescott himself addressed this myth. LSU did want him to play QB, but was on him late. Miss St. was on him from the beginning and that is where he decided to play.
Posted by PacWilly
Member since Jun 2010
554 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:39 pm to
I think the point is that all of our eggs are in the Jennings basket with the only other option being a true freshman. Jennings is not panning out and we have no other QB to go to. In all, this was a recruiting breakdown.

Youth is an excuse for Harris not being ready. Starting a true freshman in the SEC would have been giving up 3 losses before the season even started.
Posted by TigerNE
Everett, MA
Member since Jul 2013
1096 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:46 pm to
Quandary.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15579 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:10 pm to
nm
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30685 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:25 pm to
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the head man is “involved in everything.”



dunzo
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31829 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:42 pm to
great article and one thing that i take from it is that they are looking for teh exact smae offensive identity as bama has. they want a qb that has a high IQ, that is accurte, manages the flow of the game, is a leader, and will not lose the game. They don't want an athletic stud.

The guy they want is Shea Patterson. Everything on that list is him. Franks may have the flash, but Patterson is the guy we really need to be leading the offense this staff wants to run. Maybe getting Kelly then Patterson taking over after that is what the stafff is banking on at this point. Maybe they just don't see the light coming on with Harris. I don't know but putting the pieces together lead you to believe that's the case.

Then again i really question taking a guy like McMillan over someone like Pellerin, or even Donovan Isom last year. Pellerin seems like more of what the staff wants and is less of a project than JM.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:44 pm
Posted by I_am_Caster_Troy
Member since Oct 2014
11 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

Prescott wanted to play quarterback for LSU, we said no QB


Wrong. Get your facts straight.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16038 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:13 pm to
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You've got to be freaking shitting me...you don't think our offense executed last year?


relative to the talent on it, no it didn't perform to near it's potential. It did have a lot of individual great talents making individual great plays however.
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:30 pm to
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worst system that many of us have ever seen


All that to only prove you have no idea what you're talking about.

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