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Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:22 pm to double d
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Because their mission is to deliver the highest quality education and football isn't important in the big picture.
While I absolutely agree, it still doesn't explain why they participate in the playoffs of every single other sport except football. Does their academic mission not matter for basketball, tennis, and baseball players?
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:30 pm to usc6158
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While I absolutely agree, it still doesn't explain why they participate in the playoffs of every single other sport except football. Does their academic mission not matter for basketball, tennis, and baseball players?
Do the postseasons of those sports directly coincide with end of term exams?
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:42 pm to usc6158
I believe the stated reason is that they don't want the season to extend into the final exam period.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:49 pm to usc6158
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While I absolutely agree, it still doesn't explain why they participate in the playoffs of every single other sport except football. Does their academic mission not matter for basketball, tennis, and baseball players?
Apparently the Ivy League sponsors its own Lacrosse tournament that starts in May every year - just about when Spring final exams are getting under way.
Our Trojan friend has a point.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:54 pm to usc6158
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Just basic elitism or is there a legitimate reason?
Elitism, they think they and their tradition is better then competing against the FCS. All of their other sports compete in the postseason play, Ivy fooball is stuck in the 1930s. I'm sure the teams would love to compete if their admin would let them.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 1:55 pm to usc6158
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While I absolutely agree, it still doesn't explain why they participate in the playoffs of every single other sport except football. Does their academic mission not matter for basketball, tennis, and baseball players?
There's no money in it at that level. Basketball - there is money...other sports doesn't require spending a lot of money to go post-season.
Football is a big enterprise...unless they can recoup money like basketball, they aren't going to to do it. They are cheap.
They do it for B-ball for the $ and reward of worldwide exposure...
But, who gives a crap about lower-level football playoffs?
....and the other sports is like H.S. shite...
And plus, they don't want to go outside their conference and lower themselves...they are Ivy...why should we play these peons?
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:02 pm to asurob1
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The mission of a university is to educate their students not provide entertainment to alumni or worse people who have never attended the school.
Ivy league does it right.
Couldn't you say the same about every FCS school? Somehow they compete in the playoffs and still take final exams.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:07 pm to fargobison
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Elitism
In a roundabout way, this is true. But not because they think they are "too good" to play the FCS in football.
They don't want to legitimize football because they know it is a game they can't win.
Their answer is simply to redefine what is important, and for them that means "elite" sports like rowing, tennis, and lacrosse. So they will invest in those sports, and compete in those sports, because those sports match the image of the Ivies. They will not invest or compete in football because doing so would be to admit that they are playing the same game as Alabama, USC, Texas, Michigan, or Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 2:17 pm to usc6158
Ivies had a perfect bell-curve distribution in their conference standings:
0-7
1-6
2-5
3-4
4-3
5-2
6-1
7-0
0-7
1-6
2-5
3-4
4-3
5-2
6-1
7-0
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