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re: What do some of you not understand about Brandon Harris??

Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:26 am to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:26 am to
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You're not really getting it, are you?


Its not brain surgery dumazz.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:27 am to
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well Jennings isn't exactly "ready" either

Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:28 am to
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Harris has stated that he hasn't prepared the way he needs to in order to play

I like his work ethic.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:29 am to
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Seems like they hit the nail on the head with Beckwith to me. He missed just as many tackles as Welter did this year...he just looked bigger, stronger and more athletic doing it. Since he was inserted as a starter, dude has straight balled.


You don't understand that was because they put their confidence in him and he was able to play without worried about being pulled for a lesser player at any second? He became a monster and was able to call the defense because he was finally given the snaps to figure it out. And even when he was missing tackles, he was still making 3 times as many plays as Welter.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:32 am to
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You don't understand that was because they put their confidence in him and he was able to play without worried about being pulled for a lesser player at any second?


I know you really believe that but that isn't a factual statement and I don't think any coaches think like this. I hope Beckwith isn't as mentally fragile as some fans think he is or any player for that matter.
Posted by The Big Spliff
Cambridge, England
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:32 am to
STRIPES...answers me one simple thing....

if it is not ok to trot out Harris who is "not ready" and apparently not effective and can presumably be ruined (which is simply a knee jerk reaction to what happened to a totally different team back in 2008 so I don't think this is a valid issue anyway and simple paranoia) why is it so ok to trot out Jennings to get embarrassed by his poor performance week in and week out? Is it ok for him to be ruined but not Harris simply because Jennings supposedly knows the offense? Why is Jennings viewed to be immune to the same mental capacity breakdown?? Ever heard of consistency?

Why the hell should any of this make a difference? Results matter and if the results are relatively the same, why not allow it be a true rotation and true competition and allow both to potentially develop game experience?

Obviously Jennings isn't progressing after 2 years in the system and a full year under his belt, but according to you let's go ahead and allow him to potentially be ruined but protect the shite out of Harris. How does that make sense? Why on earth would you have such opposing philosophies for two guys who play the same position, performing at the same level?? That question can be posed to you and to the staff.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 8:41 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:34 am to
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well Jennings isn't exactly "ready" either

I feel really bad about myself. These past two weeks when Jennings looked like he might have gotten hurt I thought of THIS:

LINK
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 8:35 am
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:34 am to
This is one of life's great mysteries
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:36 am to
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This is like an OT 3 begging you to frick her and you refuse because you're already fricking Roseanne Barr and the OT 3 isn't hot.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:37 am to
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AJ aint ready either.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:37 am to
from an outsiders perspective, there really does not seem to be any logical reason why Harris should not start from here on out

part of me wants to believe that the staff just has the most information and their reasoning is sound, but the other part of me doubts that...
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:37 am to
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I know you really believe that but that isn't a factual statement and I don't think any coaches think like this. I hope Beckwith isn't as mentally fragile as some fans think he is or any player for that matter.


Rather you want to stick your head in the sand or not, facts are Beckwith made more plays in his limited time than Welter playing the majority of the game. Even with Welter's masterful calling of the D, we had our worst games as a D. Beckwith should have been playing earlier.
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:38 am to
He's not pouting about not getting in. He's owning up to the fact that he's not done enough to start, even though a lot of us still feel he's a better option right now.

Personally, I'd prefer all of the players to stay off of twitter, but at least he's saying the right things. And that's a big deal for a true freshman.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53974 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:40 am to
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You don't understand that was because they put their confidence in him and he was able to play without worried about being pulled for a lesser player at any second?





yeah..Beckwith stopped missing tackles because Miles and Chavis put their confidence in him. I'm sure it had nothing to do with changes to his preparation and practice. Jesus, do you people think life is nothing but a TV show? has reality television made the younger generation THAT stupid?

I've got one little nugget for ya.....you don't get the confidence of the staff when you're constantly missing tackles. And if you're Harris, you don't get the confidence of the staff when you're being out-worked and out-prepared by the upperclassmen you want to beat out.

The margin of error between Beckwith and Welter was obviously smaller than jennings and Harris, but the concept remains. If you want to PROVE you are better than the person you want to beat out, and you're not seeing the field as much as you would like you have to do it Sunday to Friday.

Reports are that Harris finally got it and has closed the game, but it's his fault he got outworked so much.
Posted by Nolatiger1987
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
128 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:40 am to
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... some of of you seem to think there is some sort of conspiracy against Brandon Harris. Sometimes the truth is the truth whether you agree or not.


So true

Most fans CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:41 am to
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Reports are that Harris finally got it and has closed the game


Hope this is true.

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but it's his fault he got outworked so much


And he knows this.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:41 am to
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Problem is, Jennings, with all of his prep and know-how, can't get it done and isn't improving. I know it was NMSU, but whatever we did with Harris there was working, and if you have to over simplify the playbook to make it work for him, you do it, because what's going on right now is abysmal and needs to change.


amen


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And I'm sorry, a true freshman's first start doesn't need to be a road conference game at Auburn.


looking back, this is obvious but at the time it looked like a good decision. not only did AJ lay an egg but BH was really playing well at MSU and NMSU. to say the situation was handled poorly is wrong. if BH would have responded like he did in the two games mentioned, our season would be different; much different.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:42 am to
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LINK


I lol'd. And I'll admit, I didn't wish for him to get hurt, but a big part of me thought it would be best if he just sat the rest of the game.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:43 am to
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part of me wants to believe that the staff just has the most information and their reasoning is sound


This is the least painful and frustrating excuse. Denial is always the easier path.

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but the other part of me doubts that...


Stats are stats. Harris has played better than Jennings in every game he was given a shot, except 1. Even then he put points on the board while Jennings could not. He has looked better than Jenning since he got here yet the coaches refuse to adapt the O in any way and refuse to give him a chance.

For all the pumpers, how many times did Manziel perform magic on broken plays in his first year? You don't think any of those were him not knowing the play and having to improvise?
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:44 am to
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Even Harris has stated that he hasn't prepared the way he needs to in order to play yet somehow some of of you seem to think there is some sort of conspiracy against Brandon Harris. Sometimes the truth is the truth whether you agree or not.


Please, please, please link where Harris says that. I have never seen it. What I have seen Harris say is that he knows the playbook and he would like the opportunity to help his team win. That he just had a bad game at Auburn and that would not happen again.

It is not that I don't believe you, it is that I haven't seen that statement anywhere. And many on here tend to make up stuff to support their positions,
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