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re: The 25 Best Metal Bands of All-Time
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:43 am to REG861
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:43 am to REG861
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Half of those bands' 'music' sounds like a colonscopy
The vocals for the extreme metal bands are anything but melodic, but I don't know how you can listen to a band like Opeth or Death and not hear virtuosity at its finest.
Most of the extreme bands, apart from the black metal artists, were immensely influenced by jazz musicians. Their arrangements are as jazz-oriented as any prog rock release from the early '70s.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:47 am to Ace Midnight
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To quote Butthead:
"Whoa. Was that a bear?" - (referring to Morbid Angel)
I loved their critique of metal bands. Even though Beavis loves Metallica they still poke fun at James' vocals and compare him to the Cowardly Lion.
It really is easy to laugh at metal artists. Any fan who fails to see the absurdity and ridiculousness of the genre is just too damn stiff and serious. It's important to laugh at yourself and your culture/hobbies, and not take things so seriously.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:53 am to Brosef Stalin
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Cannibal Corpse being ranked so high
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should be higher
How do you figure? Death preceded Cannibal Corpse and influenced death metal far more than Cannibal Corpse could have ever hoped to. The gore-filled lyrics were a trademark of Scream Bloody Gore. By the time Cannibal Corpse began to perfect their brutal death metal, Death had already moved on to technical/progressive death metal (e.g. Atheist).
Cannibal Corpse became a one-trick pony with their imagery and lyrical content. They are the Slayer of death metal. The reason why Slayer could never catch Metallica is because they limited themselves to a specific style and sound (e.g. the occult). Cannibal Corpse did the exact same thing (e.g. gore).
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AC/DC being ranked, but no Tool, Rush, Kiss, or Dream Theater
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none of these bands are metal
I beg your pardon, but Dream Theater is most certainly a metal act. Care to convince me otherwise?
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Napalm Death being ranked at all
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should be higher
I'm willing to listen to an explanation of this belief. I never have and never will understand the fascination with them or grindcore.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:55 am to RabidTiger
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I would submit Mastodon and High on Fire for that list, but maybe it's just too soon compared to the bands listed.
Mastodon has slowly grown on me as of late. I will admit that their appearance at Mayhem Fest last year was one of the most boring performances I have ever witnessed. Then again, they're not the proper band for a festival circuit.
They're body of work is definitely extensive enough to warrant them being on this list. At least they have multiple classic albums, unlike several of the bands listed.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 12:01 pm to Dr._Jimes_Tooper
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Meshuggah belongs nowhere near this list
No way, man. That is one of the most influential and progressive bands of the entire genre. They launched a brand new subgenre and somehow managed to make metal even heavier.
Thomas Haake is one of the most well-respected drummers and songwriters today and their name is revered among the heavy metal community.
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Carcass and Death in the top 10 is absolutely correct. Death's discography is great and Carcass released classics in 3 different genres.
100% agree with the remark about Death. I'll admit that I often forget how significant Carcass' work was because they stopped releasing music not long after they emerged as a worthwhile band.
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Opeth should be ahead of Cannibal Corpse.
For sure.
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If Napalm Death is on that list for starting Grind then Venom should be on there for starting black metal. Napalm isn't even that good.
I can definitely agree with this sentiment. I was surprised to not see Venom on the list despite my abhorrence for them as a band.
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I understand Cannibal being there because of popularity, but bands like Deicide and Obituary blow Cannibal out of the water.
I always thought Deicide was overrated. Then again, I dislike blasphemous death metal. I agree that Obituary should be in contention, as should Atheist and other technical death metal groups.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 12:02 pm to Dr._Jimes_Tooper
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I assume you're talking about Heartwork and Necroticism, but Syphonies of Sickness was an awesome goregrind release (which are pretty rare lol).
You assumed correctly. I'll give the debut another listen.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 12:04 pm to Hammertime
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No White Zombie, no care
They were more hard alternative than metal. I am surprised that not a single industrial metal band made the list (e.g. Rammstein, Marilyn Manson, Fear Factory). Then again, it is a pretty pedestrian subgenre.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 12:26 pm to saint amant steve
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You assumed correctly. I'll give the debut another listen.
Not the debut, sophomore album.
Debut was Reek of Putrefacation, some regard it as a classic, but the production is horrible. Like really, really bad.
This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 11/15/14 at 12:37 pm to saint amant steve
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No way, man. That is one of the most influential and progressive bands of the entire genre. They launched a brand new subgenre and somehow managed to make metal even heavier.
Thomas Haake is one of the most well-respected drummers and songwriters today and their name is revered among the heavy metal community.
Everyone in that band is a great musician, there's no denying that. Their sound just seems so robotic to me. When I listen to Meshuggah I can't tell the songs apart. It all just runs together.
Im with you on Venom tho. Not a huge fan at all but they changed the game when they came out.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 6:13 pm to saint amant steve
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How do you figure? Death preceded Cannibal Corpse and influenced death metal far more than Cannibal Corpse could have ever hoped to. The gore-filled lyrics were a trademark of Scream Bloody Gore. By the time Cannibal Corpse began to perfect their brutal death metal, Death had already moved on to technical/progressive death metal (e.g. Atheist). Cannibal Corpse became a one-trick pony with their imagery and lyrical content. They are the Slayer of death metal. The reason why Slayer could never catch Metallica is because they limited themselves to a specific style and sound (e.g. the occult). Cannibal Corpse did the exact same thing (e.g. gore).
Butchered at Birth is the Nevermind of death metal. Its the album that really brought the genre a whole new audience. Cannibal Corpse is the face and sound of death metal. They're the one death metal band everyone knows and they're proud of it. If you ask a casual music fan to name a grunge band they'll probably say Nirvana, but more serious music fans know The Pixies and Melvins had been doing that style for a few years already. Its the same with Cannibal Corpse. They may not have been the first but they're certainly the most well known. As for them being a one trick pony, so what? Their fans don't care. Extreme metal, and in particular death metal fans, don't want too much experimentation. Look at Morbid Angel's most recent album for an example. Everyone hated it. CC does one thing but they do it to perfection. They give the fans what they want and put out a consistently good product.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 11:53 pm to Brosef Stalin
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They give the fans what they want and put out a consistently good product.
Agree with this.
CC knows what the fans love, and they always deliver.
They deserve their spot in the top 25 for sure. But after really diving into the genre of death metal, especially finding the really obscure gems from the 90's, CC just doesn't blow my mind like they used to.
CC deserves the respect they get, this is all my opinion.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:16 am to Dr._Jimes_Tooper
Black Sabbath at #1 is the only correct choice. The rest is all subjective bullshite that I wouldn't pay any more attention to than I would the stupid list Rolling Stone is famous for.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:14 pm to Ace Midnight
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Lamb of God on this list - really borderline to call them metal - on a list with Slayer, Morbid Angel, etc.
Youve got be kidding me with this? Lamb of God not metal?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:34 pm to dnm3305
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Youve got be kidding me with this? Lamb of God not metal?
I think some people have a very specific definition of what constitutes as metal. "Heavy metal" no longer applies the entire genre of music. Instead, it has become synonymous with Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and other "classic heavy metal-sounding" bands.
From an evolutionary standpoint Lamb of God admittedly seems less connected to Black Sabbath than Slayer, but the core of elements of the music are still there.
Then again, there are a number of bands that metal purists would argue are not part of the fabric of heavy metal music. However, Lamb of God's style and sound is simply a direct offshoot of late thrash and early groove metal.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:54 pm to saint amant steve
AIC brings it harder than most of the bands on this list.
Pantera should be 1.
AIC is better than all of them.
Pantera should be 1.
AIC is better than all of them.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:59 pm to dnm3305
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Lamb of God not metal?
Well - I tried to clarify that - I think "Groove Metal" (I still laugh) is kind of something else - without judging them - I certainly enjoy that better than, for example, Morbid Angel (as the classic example of "death" metal), but not as much as Slayer, Metallica and the classic metal stuff on which I was raised.
Just as Tool - my favorite "heavy band" of the past 15 to 20 years is sometimes considered "metal" but is rightfully considered "something else".
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:09 pm to Ace Midnight
I have to disagree with you as well. Lamb of God is definitely metal. Now, you could definitely argue against them for top 25, as I could probably think of some bands that should be on there instead. but to not really consider them as metal but as "something else" just isn't accurate IMO.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 11:09 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
For many years I thought Metallica was the best metal band but I recently started listening to more Pantera and I think I'd have to give them the #1 spot instead.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:37 am to saint amant steve
Who gives a crap? None of them hold a candle to bands that rocked just as hard but aren't considered metal like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and the Who.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:54 am to saint amant steve
Anthrax should round out the top 10 and I'd be okay with the list.
Mastadon should be on it.
AC/DC -- I'll never understand how.
Mastadon should be on it.
AC/DC -- I'll never understand how.
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