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re: The Oregonian girl who was going to commit suicide because of her illness...
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
As a Christian I have plenty of fault with it. Committing suicide is not something you can repent beforehand. Once the deed is done you die in a state of mortal sin. There's no going back from that.
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Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:25 pm to Clyde Tipton
I must admit that I am very uncomfortable with Physician Assisted Suicide.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:26 pm to Rouge
Becuase it becomes more of a medical decision. Should she have blown her head off? She didnt want to end her life suffering.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:27 pm to RollTide1987
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My grandmother was 86 when she died of lung cancer. The final months were very painful for her and yet she fought till the end.
That's why this issue bothers me. Not that this girl or others choose to end their life but that their choice is described as "dignified." And this girl especially has brought out the comments of bravery. As though living through the pain to the end is cowardly. It just aggravates me. I don't care what people do. I'm not in their shoes. But, the associated adjectives are misappropriated.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:27 pm to RollTide1987
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As a Christian I have plenty of fault with it.
Pretty sure it's her right not to give a frick what you think.
You gonna go and raise a stink at her funeral because her personal beliefs didn't gel with yours?
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:28 pm to drunkenpunkin
I don't want to be a burden on others, nor do I want to suffer. I've been clear with people, take me out back and put me down if I'm too far gone to do it on my own.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:29 pm to Sho Nuff
That's fine. But it's not dignified or brave.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:30 pm to RollTide1987
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As a Christian I have plenty of fault with it. Committing suicide is not something you can repent beforehand. Once the deed is done you die in a state of mortal sin. There's no going back from that.
ROOOOOOLL TAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHD
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:30 pm to fr33manator
Yeah that's probably not what he meant.
Show me where the priest touched you...
Show me where the priest touched you...
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:30 pm to RollTide1987
But should one be punished for wanting to not suffer?
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:31 pm to Overbrook
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I must admit that I am very uncomfortable with Physician Assisted Suicide.
I'm ok as long as it's limited to an advisory role.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:31 pm to drunkenpunkin
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As though living through the pain to the end is cowardly. It just aggravates me.
I don't think anybody thinks that or has said that
Saying you have a right to die with dignity =/= as saying people who suffer don't have dignity. People make different choices. I'm willing to bet a lot more people would choose to end it if they could.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:33 pm to drunkenpunkin
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As though living through the pain to the end is cowardly
Did anyone say it was?
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:33 pm to drunkenpunkin
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And this girl especially has brought out the comments of bravery. As though living through the pain to the end is cowardly
Uh not at all. Those aren't competing points
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:33 pm to tsmi136
Pretty sure gumps are mostly baptists...
I don't have a problem with Christians. I have a problem with holier than thou types who think their theological beliefs somehow trump everyone else's right to their own set of morals.
I don't have a problem with Christians. I have a problem with holier than thou types who think their theological beliefs somehow trump everyone else's right to their own set of morals.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:34 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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There's no point if it's terminal.
That's your opinion. There are people who have their reasons to keep fighting to the end. And I have a great deal of respect for those that do just that.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:35 pm to Sho Nuff
The term absolutely implies it. Euphemisms in general annoy me but this one just really grinds my gears. She committed suicide rather than face an ugly and painful death. That is what happened.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:35 pm to Hazelnut
Do you lose respect if they dont?
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:36 pm to drunkenpunkin
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That's fine. But it's not dignified or brave.
Says who, you?
A couple things: who gives a frick and if I feel it's the right thing to do, why should I care what you or Christians think?
I grew up in catholic school and I'm so glad I haven't attended church since I was forced to as a kid. It's amazing for such God fearing people, many have no compassion or room for others beliefs.
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:37 pm to Sho Nuff
Where did the Christian stuff come from? I said I don't care if people choose to kill themselves. Just call it what it is.
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