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Pope calls for abolition of death penalty

Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
100187 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:25 pm
he also doesn't much care for life sentences. Have at it, poliboard LINK
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:25 pm to
I agree on the death penalty. Not on life sentences.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
32257 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:26 pm to
fine re: death penalty. life sentences opposition just means he doesn't really care about justice.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:28 pm to
This guy was asking for help for Christians against ISIS?

Go figure!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
102212 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:29 pm to
Funny... I don't remember in any of the Gospels when one of the thieves asked for (and obtained) Jesus' forgiveness that Jesus turned to the centurions and said "he's been forgiven, you can let him down now."
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
124246 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:32 pm to
That's fine....I wonder why the pope doesn't change the language in the catechism then?
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13973 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:53 pm to
Sort of agree on both points.

I will say this though, there are people that should NEVER see the outside of a prison.

What I'd replace the death penalty with is hard labor.

If you can kill someone, you can work the rest of your life banging bricks or some other bullshite that kills you slowly.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56609 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

All Christians and men of good will are called today to fight not just for the abolition of the death penalty in all its forms, whether it be legal or illegal, but also the goal of improving prison conditions, out of respect of the human dignity of people deprived of their freedom," the pope said during a meeting with the International Association of Penal Law.


not an authoritative statement.

Not that I disagree but if you look at Catholic theologians you will see them say that he is speaking on his own personal opinion not speaking with Authority.

Even though if the Pope says something on faith and morals and you are Catholic you should listen to him.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
65669 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:58 pm to
Sounds a lot like most Popes.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67563 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:49 pm to
a Christian leader advocating for mercy. Whodathunkit!?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:49 pm to
Death penalty is an appropriate and just punishment for the ultimate and most unforgivable crime there is. If you take a life with evil intent, you deserve to lose yours in return.

He's out of his mind on life sentences. There are people who are too dangerous and evil to be allowed to walk as a free man ever again.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
35106 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:03 pm to
This isn't a new Catholic stance, is it? It's been a major conflict in my Faith for a while.
Posted by Wrenchruh
Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2012
2413 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:14 pm to
If Ancient Rome didn't have the death penalty, the Pope wouldn't have job. He should probably STFU.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 7:36 pm to
The death penalty is good for people whose values are stuck in the year 1400.

It's just porn for people who want to feel like they are part of killing someone.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21075 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:26 pm to
It's a damn good thing popes don't have any real power anymore.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37537 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:49 pm to
I'm for the death penalty, especially for anyone that is convicted of molesting children in any capacity.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
42422 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:50 pm to
The death penalty is biblically justifiable. I support it
Posted by Chappy
G-Town
Member since Jul 2007
3415 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:59 am to
This is a subject that I gave deep thought to for months when I worked in Homicide.

I believe my beliefs are pretty consistent with The Church. I don't believe the death penalty is needed in LA because we have a life sentence without benefit of probation/parole. However, I can certainly see how it could be justified in a state that has a sentence of 20 years to life, and parole is always an option. There are people who should never be allowed back into society.

I was glad when Hillar Moore instituted the "Contract for Life". Which is basically a contract defendants sign in order to avoid the death penalty. They plead guilty to 1st degree murder, no appeals and go straight to Angola. I believe it can save the family of the victim a lot of grief by avoiding all of the appeals.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10037 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:38 am to
But he's OK with the concept of eternal hell
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