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re: City of Houston demands pastors turn over sermons
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:32 am to FalseProphet
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:32 am to FalseProphet
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The war I waged in here was against the notion that sermons are somehow protected from discovery.
Well then I concede that you beat the frick out of that straw man. Well done.
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:41 am to BigJim
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Well then I concede that you beat the frick out of that straw man. Well done.
How the hell is that a straw man? It was his entire argument for like two pages.
I didn't come in this thread raising any issue that wasn't purely legal.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:45 am to FalseProphet
I never said religion was protected from subpoena even in relevant cases because of some privacy clause.
I never said that. You can re-read the thread if you like.
I never said that. You can re-read the thread if you like.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:46 am to FalseProphet
Appears someone realized they fricked up...
Of course, there's this...
Of course, there's this...
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The city’s statement added that the subpoenas were issued by “pro bono attorneys helping the city prepare for the trial regarding the petition to repeal the new Houston Equal Rights Ordinance” and “Neither the mayor nor City Attorney David Feldman were aware the subpoenas had been issued until [Tuesday].”
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:49 am to udtiger
Don't you just love it when Public Officials use the power of the office to intimidate and silence the opposition?
Well at least the IRS hasn't done anything like that.
Thank God!
Well at least the IRS hasn't done anything like that.
Thank God!
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:53 am to udtiger
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Neither the mayor nor City Attorney David Feldman
The rogue Cincinnati office strikes again.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:57 am to son of arlo
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The rogue Cincinnati office strikes again.
Can't wait for the Hard Drives to go missing.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:29 am to redandright
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Can't wait for the Hard Drives to go missing.
Cruz will be speaking at 11:25 from First Baptist Houston if anyone in the Houston area is interested.
I'd attend if I weren't in BR
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:26 pm to TexasTiger89
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:04 pm to udtiger
quote:
Neither the mayor nor City Attorney David Feldman were aware the subpoenas had been issued until [Tuesday].”
I think I'll push the BS button
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:05 pm to udtiger
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“Neither the mayor nor City Attorney David Feldman were aware the subpoenas had been issued until [Tuesday].”
I'd like a lawyer to weigh in on this quote. Does this mean a judge signed an order to issue the subpoenas that went out?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:14 pm to Willie Stroker
A separate lawyer is working this case pro bono. So they're pretending he drew up the subpoena and they had no idea of the language in it even though the city attorney defended the subpoena for sermons the same day he said he only recently saw it.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:18 pm to udtiger
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“Neither the mayor nor City Attorney David Feldman were aware the subpoenas had been issued until [Tuesday].”
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:23 pm to Willie Stroker
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I'd like a lawyer to weigh in on this quote. Does this mean a judge signed an order to issue the subpoenas that went out?
Yes...a subpoena duces tecum...it was likely coupled with a deposition.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:23 pm to Taxing Authority
Timeline
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Wednesday, Oct 15th, 2014, about 00:12 AM, Houston Mayor A. Parker tweets “if the 5 pastors used pulpits for politics, their sermons are fair game.”
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:25 pm to son of arlo
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quote: Wednesday, Oct 15th, 2014, about 00:12 AM, Houston Mayor A. Parker tweets “if the 5 pastors used pulpits for politics, their sermons are fair game.”
Like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton?
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:28 pm to Revelator
"Ah ain't no ways tiYERD! We come toooo fahrr."
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:31 pm to son of arlo
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Wednesday, Oct 15th, 2014, about 00:12 AM, Houston Mayor A. Parker tweets “if the 5 pastors used pulpits for politics, their sermons are fair game.”
so free speech now is only private speech. If I'm a pastor my speech can now be regulated by the government because I'm speaking from the pulpit? Political speech or not, the Government shouldn't regulate what pastors can say from the pulpit.
Personally I hope these pastors have the courage to stand up and preach for what they believe in, and be willing to pay hefty fines, or even spend time in jail. Show the government they have no control over us.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:33 pm to catholictigerfan
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so free speech now is only private speech. If I'm a pastor my speech can now be regulated by the government because I'm speaking from the pulpit? Political speech or not, the Government shouldn't regulate what pastors can say from the pulpit.
They're not attempting to regulate what the pastors preach. Do you even know what this case is about?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:41 pm to cwill
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They're not attempting to regulate what the pastors preach.
Perfect example of not seeing the forest for the trees.
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