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Redshirting Garrett?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:27 pm
I understand he's in a difficult position to see the field, but what's the point of Redshirting him or anyone really? We lose more people early to the draft than any team in the nation. Regardless of how much he actually plays, you shouldn't have to worry about burning his redshirt or not.
I wish the SEC/NCAA would make the rule 5 years of eligibility with no redshirt. The average student takes over 4.5 years to graduate college nowadays.
I wish the SEC/NCAA would make the rule 5 years of eligibility with no redshirt. The average student takes over 4.5 years to graduate college nowadays.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:37 pm to SammyTiger
The SEC is good at bringing new ideas that benefit the players. They usually lead the initiative to make changes like this. I'm hoping it gets done some time soon.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:39 pm to easy money
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Garrett
He has already burned his redshirt.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:41 pm to Noplacelikehome
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He has already burned his redshirt.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:43 pm to LSUfan4444
I thought i've seen him out on ST some point this season. Maybe against New Mexico State?
Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought he has already seen the field.
Anyone know?
Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought he has already seen the field.
Anyone know?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:44 pm to easy money
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I understand he's in a difficult position to see the field, but what's the point of Redshirting him or anyone really? We lose more people early to the draft than any team in the nation. Regardless of how much he actually plays, you shouldn't have to worry about burning his redshirt or not.
LSU has proven, more than any other program, that it understands this.
What makes you think this is a strategic decision to try and save a year?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:49 pm to Coater
Yes. Shouldn't you be all hands on deck for all of your scholarship players. I'm not saying it's strategic and I understand LSU gets players on the field early better than most. My point is, you shouldn't even have to waiver on the decision to play a guy or not. Give them 5 years and if they don't play their 1st year or "redshirt" year than no harm done.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:52 pm to easy money
Well the thing is.... Just because they have an extra year or whatever, that doesn't mean they will stay.
3 years removed from high school = eligible to go pro.
3 years removed from high school = eligible to go pro.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:54 pm to easy money
Some people not reading the OP
I'm not sure I agree however. A programs decision to hold a kid out is just that. 4 years is plenty of time
I'm not sure I agree however. A programs decision to hold a kid out is just that. 4 years is plenty of time
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:56 pm to GeauxLSU95
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I thought i've seen him out on ST some point this season.
You have
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I thought he has already seen the field.
He has
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:58 pm to KG5989
Yes, that would still be the case. You can go pro after 3 years. Your point?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:58 pm to easy money
I used to hate when they burned redshirts that weren't really contributing, but now I think (outside of maybe kickers and specialists), burn em.
That being said, I don't know what kind of conversations he had with Miles and what the details are. I'm sure it has more to do than just saving a year of eligibility.
That being said, I don't know what kind of conversations he had with Miles and what the details are. I'm sure it has more to do than just saving a year of eligibility.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 12:59 pm to easy money
You can contribute in the 1st 3 games of the season and still redshirt I believe.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:03 pm to easy money
My thought is they are trying to stagger Beckwith and Garrett, but I don't think it will matter much. I'd rather see Garrett contribute as much as he can now. Based on his ability, he is not a guy that is likely to stay on campus 5 years.
The idea behind 5 years of eligibility is that you don't have to burn 'em. Use who you want/need when you want/need to.
The idea behind 5 years of eligibility is that you don't have to burn 'em. Use who you want/need when you want/need to.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:10 pm to easy money
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The average student takes over 4.5 years to graduate college nowadays.
that's because of mommy and daddy being pussies. other than architecture there is no reason for a person to take over 4 years to graduate.
5 years of eligibility with no redshirt may cause some problems. most players that are good are gone so you could end up with a large sr class of "backups" that just were not good enough to crack the starting lineup. that means signing less than 25 new guys or processing the older guys. you already have enough of that going on.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:24 pm to LSU GrandDad
Good point. I would imagine that the schools would be relegated more scholarships to cover the 5 year span. This rule doesn't really help the guys who are 3 and done or the guys who are very likely to not contribute and ,as of now redshirt. This rule benefits the middle of those 2, which is most of your signing class in most cases. Those guys who could contribute, but we decide to redshirt who just leave after 3 or 4 years anyway.
Let's look at an example. Best example is Jerald Hawkins. This guy may be done after this year. He is a 2 year starter after his redshirt year. Could this guy not have contributed as a true freshman? Maybe he needed to get stronger and maybe he was very raw, but it seems a guy that can turn around and start after the redshirt year could have helped.
Dural is another one. We saw how little he contributed as a redshirt freshman so maybe he just wasn't ready, but he could have had 2 years of limited roles in the offense already coming into this year.
Maybe the logistics would be more complicated than I think, but it's a rule that benefits the players and the coaches IMO.
Let's look at an example. Best example is Jerald Hawkins. This guy may be done after this year. He is a 2 year starter after his redshirt year. Could this guy not have contributed as a true freshman? Maybe he needed to get stronger and maybe he was very raw, but it seems a guy that can turn around and start after the redshirt year could have helped.
Dural is another one. We saw how little he contributed as a redshirt freshman so maybe he just wasn't ready, but he could have had 2 years of limited roles in the offense already coming into this year.
Maybe the logistics would be more complicated than I think, but it's a rule that benefits the players and the coaches IMO.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:29 pm to easy money
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You can contribute in the 1st 3 games of the season and still redshirt I believe.
Actually, I'm pretty certain they changed the rules (8-10 year ago?) that ANY participation burns your redshirt. they did away with the first 3 game rule.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:39 pm to easy money
Good point on Hawkins ,but I believe Dural would have played as a true fr., but an injury in fall camp knocked him out.
Who knows about Garrett's abilities yet. Some people do need a year to adjust on gain weight or strength. Josh Downs came in ready to play while Brockers and Logan were red shirted from the same class. Davenport was in that class as well. Not saying Garrett will not play well when given the chance, Davenport obviously did not.
Who knows about Garrett's abilities yet. Some people do need a year to adjust on gain weight or strength. Josh Downs came in ready to play while Brockers and Logan were red shirted from the same class. Davenport was in that class as well. Not saying Garrett will not play well when given the chance, Davenport obviously did not.
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