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re: Texas health worker tests positive for Ebola
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:34 pm to SundayFunday
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:34 pm to SundayFunday
quote:
I thought this was supposed to be really hard to contract. If he/she was protected, how in the world did they get it?
Given the hundreds of people (minimum) who were possibly exposed, the fact that only person has actually gotten sick thus far just reinforces how difficult it is to catch.
Had this been a new nasty flu strain, we'd have seen dozens of cases by now. People's fear has blinded them to rational thought on this issue.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:36 pm to NC_Tigah
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As I've said from the beginning the "hard to contract" meme is politically motivated BS.
Frankly, it is nothing short of a miracle we've only had one additional case so far.
You're normally a solid poster, but your paranoia has overtaken you on this topic.
The fact that we've had one case isnt a miracle, its pretty much what is expected when something like ebola is introduced into a first world population.
And I can assure you from the medical and biological side of things that ebola is hard to contract relative to other disease causing agents.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:46 pm to bamafan1001
quote:
Its very interesting how even Ebola has become a political issue. Every progressive out there seems to be on the "there's nothing to worry about" bandwagon and while conservatives are the opposite.
Because it's something else they can blame on Obama. If Bush were president, the roles would flip and liberals would be screaming about the dangers of ebola.
The outrage over this has nothing to do with objective analysis or scientific understanding, it is people politicizing an issue in light of their beliefs. This has very little to do with ebola itself. For instance, NC doesnt understand ebola. He has never studied it, probably never even taken a molecular genetics or microbiology course, doesnt understand the medical treatments and system of precautions surrounding it, but he is presenting himself as a beacon of light amongst the dark on this issue.
The unflinching political loyalty on both sides damns intelligent discussion.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:49 pm to SundayFunday
quote:It seems that the hospital was very poorly prepared to handle any type of infectious disease. They fumbled this from the initial diagnosis. Now it seems that their staff was not properly trained to handle safety protocols initially.
I thought this was supposed to be really hard to contract. If he/she was protected, how in the world did they get it?
Makes you wonder how many viruses and other illnesses are transferred from patient to patient at that hospital.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:54 pm to mmcgrath
I guarantee that this nurse fricked up somewhere along the way and didnt follow protocol.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:00 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Agree. And unfortunately it probably isn't her fault as the hospital failed to train their staff appropriately. Hope she makes it.
I guarantee that this nurse fricked up somewhere along the way and didnt follow protocol.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:01 pm to KILGUS
I think this shows that ebola can be contracted via airborne presence. Your CDC continues to lie to you.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:That explains why they've shut down the Hospital's entire ED I suppose.
The fact that we've had one case isnt a miracle, its pretty much what is expected when something like ebola is introduced into a first world population.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
I guarantee that this nurse fricked up somewhere along the way and didnt follow protocol.
Going out on a limb, aren't you.
Obviously someone didn't follow protocol unless protocol dictates that we want to spread infectious disease and virus.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:05 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:Quite a stretch really.
I think this shows that ebola can be contracted via airborne presence
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:06 pm to GeeOH
It's not really going out on a limb when they stated that there was a protocol breach when they announced the nurse came down with it.
Of course, that is obviously a lie they are saying to keep people calm.
Of course, that is obviously a lie they are saying to keep people calm.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:08 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
That explains why they've shut down the Hospital's entire ED I suppose.
Why wouldnt they?
Like I said, you simply lack the understanding of the medical field to speak intelligently about this.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:09 pm to GeeOH
quote:
Obviously someone didn't follow protocol unless protocol dictates that we want to spread infectious disease and virus.
Many here are arguing that the virus is spreading despite proper protocol, thus my post.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:10 pm to carbola
quote:
There have been more cases of the Plague in the US this year than Ebola
OK
quote:
And that spreads much easier than Ebola.
SO shouldn't there be more cases than Ebola?
I have 2 things that jump into my thoughts...
Ebola has been here for a couple of weeks and there are 2 cases at least. Exponentially, it could explode if more than a few cases pop up
Secondly, the plague is easily treatable in most cases, easier to stop once located and more prepared.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:19 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:The key is "proper".
proper protocol
My impression here is all suggested CDC protocols were followed.
Does that protocol include an experienced CDC trained observer or equivalent during any patient contact, material disposal, decontamination process, etc.?
If not, why not?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:21 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Dude!
Like I said, you simply lack the understanding of the medical field to speak intelligently about this.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:22 pm to GeeOH
quote:He is indeed.
I guarantee that this nurse fricked up somewhere along the way and didnt follow protocol.
Going out on a limb, aren't you.
Simply a stupid statement.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:23 pm to GeeOH
quote:
Ebola has been here for a couple of weeks and there are 2 cases at least. Exponentially, it could explode if more than a few cases pop up
Food for thought, a graph of the R(0) of various diseases, including Ebola:
Keep in mind, the Ebola entry in this isn't some generic thing. It is representative of the current strain that is causing problems in the shitty health care system now.
The R(0) in the US will be much lower.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:33 pm to Volvagia
quote:and the good news re: spread reduction is symptoms are requisite in order for Ebola to be contagious. Were that single factor to change, it would significantly alter the epidemiology.
Food for thought, a graph of the R(0) of various diseases, including Ebola:
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:34 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
My impression here is all suggested CDC protocols were followed.
Trust me, they weren't.
Regular floor nurses are largely regarded as useful idiots by most doctors.
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