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re: "Scientists sound alarm over ocean acidification" [CO2 related]

Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

"Scientists sound alarm over ocean acidification"


I believe that "industrial and manmade CO2" is having much more of an effect on the oceans that the air. With that being said the so called enviromentalists do not have a real solution but just ways to raise taxes or get their buddies rich.

You want to reduce CO2 emmissions here is how:
1. Allow more fracking and drilling for NG. NG is the cleanest and cheapest energy source we have available at the moment.
2. Deregulate the nuclear power industry so that nuclear is cheaper
3. Use the $$$ generated from oil and natural gas royalities to fund research into "green energy"
4. Invest in fixing our broken road system so that congestion is reduced
5. reinstitute the hybrid vehicle tax credit that expired in 2011 for regular hybrids.
6. Approve more clean diesel and LNG engines for vehicles.
7. Punch Al Gore in the balls
Posted by livewire
Member since Aug 2008
999 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:05 pm to
You know, I went and hung out at our barrier islands last weekend (spent a lot of time soakin' in the gulf).
Later when I got home, I noticed my fingernails and toenails had disappeared.
Now it all makes sense!
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17556 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:05 pm to

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124689 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

I believe that "industrial and manmade CO2" is having much more of an effect on the oceans that the air.
Industrial runoff, overfishing, and inadvertent biological loss in the process is 100-fold more of a concern.

Distraction from real environmental issues is the problem with disproportionate focus on CO2-footprint.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

ill just drop this little gem off right here and be on my way...


No Ebola. No Immigrants .No panic.


Right wingers become so called experts over climate change , but lose their minds & become irrational /alarmist over a virus that will kill less people than the flu this year.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47968 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124689 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Ebola
quote:

Right wingers
You sir, are one hell of an idiot.

Ebola is now a """right-wing""" issue?
That is brilliant!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124689 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:22 pm to
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You sir, are one hell of an idiot.
Of course you pale in comparison with Green Chili Tiger who is quoting Emm Kay@emmkaff as a scientific source.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:37 pm to
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No Ebola. No Immigrants .No panic.


Right wingers become so called experts over climate change , but lose their minds & become irrational /alarmist over a virus that will kill less people than the flu this year.


maybe yall should make a computer model that links ebola to climate change.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:55 pm to
Let's be honest guys.

The chemistry does not lie. This does happen, on some level. You cannot deny that.


NOW.
The extent of that may be just a weeeeee bit overplayed

ETA

Speaking of weee, WeeWee is spot on
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:57 pm to
quote:


Distraction from real environmental issues is the problem with disproportionate focus on CO2-footprint.


carbon creds is big business... we gon be rich!!!!


woohoo!
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

Speaking of weee, WeeWee is spot on


which part? The punching Al Gore in the balls or linking Ebola to CC part?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 6:00 pm to
Your post on top of this page, so the post including Gore
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:18 am to
quote:

Let's say I believe this.


It's not really a question of belief.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:21 am to
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So, assuming a baseline pH of 8.2, most folks would presume ""a quarter"" to mean that pH is now 6.1.


Maybe if they are stupid like you.

quote:


In actuality the bullshite OP wording belies the fact that IAW claims, "ocean" pH has dropped from ~8.2 to ~8.1. Doesn't sound quite so dramatic when expressed in standard manner . . . . and that is assuming the baseline is even accurate.


You can make any differences look small by using a logarithmic scale. What's your point?

Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:23 am to
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and what happens to that oceanic CO2 as temperatures increase?


It gets released to warm the Earth. Yay!
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:28 am to


That's not even true you fricking moron, it was a 40 year prediction - even the author admits it.
Further, the prediction is contingent upon a doubling of CO2 since 1988.



quote:

Thanks to a tip from Willis Eschenbach, there’s some developing news in that story from Dr. James Hansen. The Salon interviewee and book author, Rob Reiss that I quoted, now admits he somehow conflated 40 years with 20 years, and concedes that Dr. Hansen actually said 40 years for his prediction.


LINK /


This is quite typical total denialist hackery. Just making shite up!


bTW - here's the West Side Highway underwater



- a full 16 years earlier than predicted!
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 12:36 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:48 am to
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3. Use the $$$ generated from oil and natural gas royalities to fund research into "green energy"


That's not an idea "the so called enviromentalists" have ever had, right?
quote:

4. Invest in fixing our broken road system so that congestion is reduced

Its not "broken". Congestion is a result of the laws of supply and demand - people will balance the advantages of living further from urban centers with the penalty imposed by traffic. If you build more lanes from Baton Rouge to Gonzales, its not ultimately going to make traffic better - it will ultimately just cause more people to move to Gonzales until the traffic becomes just as bad and in the end - MORE miles driven, not less.

quote:


5. reinstitute the hybrid vehicle tax credit that expired in 2011 for regular hybrids.


That's not an idea "the so called enviromentalists" have ever had, right?

quote:

6. Approve more clean diesel and LNG engines for vehicles.



So your "solution" is really just to continue to acidify the oceans at about half the rate we are now, and be done with it?

Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 2:45 am to
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So your "solution" is really just to continue to acidify the oceans at about half the rate we are now, and be done with it?


You balk, but this seems to be the same attitude towards "progress" that left wingers want to assign to our deficit spending.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:31 am to
quote:


You balk, but this seems to be the same attitude towards "progress" that left wingers want to assign to our deficit spending.



I don't really see how deficit spending acidifies the oceans.

Maybe you can explain.
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