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re: Blood on Obama's hands? Child dies. Infected by illegals?
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:01 pm to Da Sheik
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:01 pm to Da Sheik
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Oh, this is too easy. If travel restriction from Ebola infected countries would be in place we would be better off.
First, those two links only talk about the presence of travel bans in Canada and elsewhere, not their effectiveness.
We both know the reason you left that part out is because they don't work. As recent travel bans have shown, they at best delay the spread of a disease by a few weeks. They are totally ineffective at stopping the disease from arriving.
Second, a travel ban would limit the ability of healthcare workers to travel to the affected countries and stop the disease there, which is the only proven way to eliminate all risk.
So from a public health (and common sense) perspective, your solution would kill more people than the current policy.
But I'm sure you'll have another witty emoticon.
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Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:08 pm to BamaAtl
Your logic is just one of the many reasons why America is changing the landscape on Tuesday.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:11 pm to Da Sheik
Yeah, we wouldn't want them voting with facts.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:15 pm to Meauxjeaux
The answer is yes. We should do everything possible to keep people with diseases from entering this country illegally and in the shadows, certainly not welcoming them without proper medical screening and sending them to schools across the country to infect American children.
It's insane we have eroded to this as a people.
It's insane we have eroded to this as a people.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:36 pm to Da Sheik
quote:Savsge has PhD in medical anthro. Lol
Michael Savage said this outbreak is due to the illegals from South of the border. He has a PHD in epidemiology and knows his shite when it comes to things like this. He also said the the outbreak of TB and other crazy diseases are a direct link to Obola's open borders policy. These kids are placed into schools across America where the natural born citizens don't have immunity to these diseases. Treasonous policies up in aqui.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:04 am to BuckyBadger
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:25 am to Champagne
quote:I guess this is what it comes to. Lying about the death of children to push a political agenda.
We are going to get the word out that Obama's open border policies are putting American kids at higher risk of contracting deadly diseases, and then let the Voters decide.
Good luck with waving your scientific papers and persuading them that we are wrong.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:29 am to mmcgrath
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I guess this is what it comes to. Lying about the death of children to push a political agenda.
It's been the bread 'n butter of the dimocratix party for decades.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:14 am to BamaAtl
quote:At this point you've simply collapsed into a pit of hack, haven't you.
Can't really blame Obama for someone getting Ebola in Liberia and hopping on a plane, but I'm sure you'll try.
Look, you can certainly defend your personal political opinions, or questionable policies of your leftist cronies. You'll fair better though if you refrain from attempts to drape those preferences in the guise of "science". It is a fool's errand, at least on this site.
As far as "blaming Obama", of course he is responsible for incompetent immigration policy. At this stage he is nearly solely responsible for it. He owns it. He built it. He's had the CDC carry his water in the WestAfrican-Ebola-immigration equation. Sadly, Frieden and CDC administrators agreed. Like you, they then attempted to cloak bad policy in science. Dumb stuff!
Lesson learned?
Nope.
Now we have EV-D68 likely sourced from Central America.
How long would it take the CDC to prove or disprove that thesis? Less than a week? But that particular epidemiologic work, the type work the CDC is actually supposed to be doing, would likely demonstrate the President's immigration program came at cost of American lives. American children's lives. So where is the CDC's genetic confirmation that EV-D68 did or did not originate from Central American migrants? What is CDC's culpability in the EV-D68 enterovirus equation?
More important, because it screwed the pooch with both Ebola and with EV-D68, what is it's culpability with the next foreign born US multi-indexed epidemic?
quote:Don't be stupid.
Post a link with a peer-reviewed study claiming this
How about this: You post a peer-reviewed study claiming effective isolation does not quell viral spread. Do that.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:25 am to NC_Tigah
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He's had the CDC carry his water in the WestAfrican-Ebola-immigration equation. Sadly, Frieden and CDC administrators agreed.
This is hardly surprising.....they are Obama's appointments.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:39 am to HonoraryCoonass
quote:Frieden is a fricking doctor. Compromising health for politics in his case is inexcusable.
.....they are Obama's appointments
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:54 am to NC_Tigah
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Frieden is a fricking doctor. Compromising health for politics in his case is inexcusable.
I would agree 100%.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:08 am to cwill
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Two unrelated border policies have hobbled the government’s response to the surge in UAC. The first policy was about how the government should humanely treat apprehended UAC. Children used to be treated in the same way as adults were. That practice was challenged by a 15-year-old Salvadorian girl named Jenny Lisette Flores in a 1985 lawsuit that was finally settled in 1997.
Under the Flores settlement, as it became known, UAC were exempted from “expedited removal” — a newly created process in 1996 that allowed for removal of non-asylum seekers without a court hearing. Instead, it required the government to “ensure the prompt release of children” and place them “in the least restrictive setting appropriate” pending a court hearing. Parents, legal guardians and adult relatives of the UAC were the preferred appropriate settings designated by the government.
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In 2002 and again in 2008, this legal framework was codified and clarified with very little resistance in Congress. At that time, few unaccompanied children were crossing illegally despite these relatively lenient policies. In 2008, Congress actually liberalized the Flores agreement considerably by making releases much less discretionary and moving temporary detention to Health and Human Services prior to the children being settled with their families or in foster care.
When it came up for a vote, 183 Republicans voted for the 2008 law. In fact, even Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), the tough chairman of the House Judiciary Committee who just held a hearing entitled “An Administration-Made Crisis: The Border Surge of Unaccompanied Alien Minors,” voted for the current policy regime.
The 2008 bill was crafted by both the Republican and Democratic Judiciary Committee staff and was so uncontroversial that the final version passed by unanimous consent in the Senate and a voice vote in the House. It was then signed into law by a Republican president.
Ok, so Obama fricked us with a giant dildo crafted by Clinton and Bush. What else is new?
Did Obama have to frick us with the giant dildo? No.
If someone gets stabbed, do you blame the knife manufacturer?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:15 am to BamaAtl
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Second, a travel ban would limit the ability of healthcare workers to travel to the affected countries and stop the disease there, which is the only proven way to eliminate all risk.
I'm glad that you admit that the best way to eliminate all risk is "to travel to the affected countries and stop the disease there". I completely agree.
So, this begs the question: Why does the Obama Administration consider plans to import infected persons here to the USA for treatment?
I think that you are fighting a losing political battle because the average US voter no longer trusts Obama and his minions. For years, we've seen lies, distortions, double-talk, intimidation, taking the "Fifth", underhanded dealing and deflection.
So, as they say, the chickens are coming home to roost.
If this article is a pack of lies and distortions, I would have a huge problem with that. I would find that disgusting.
However, the Obama Administration itself has already been demonstrated to be disgusting in many areas. As such, whenever somebody says something like "Obama's importing infected constituents into the USA and is killing our kids", it has the ring of Truth.
So, you've got an uphill battle WhiteKnighting for Obama because the jury's verdict is returned -- Obama is a miscreant.
We'll see what the voters think of Obama tomorrow.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 9:16 am
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:37 am to SoulGlo
quote:It was codified and clarified as an anti-trafficking measure.
In 2002 and again in 2008, this legal framework was codified and clarified with very little resistance in Congress. At that time, few unaccompanied children were crossing illegally despite these relatively lenient policies. In 2008, Congress actually liberalized the Flores agreement considerably by making releases much less discretionary and moving temporary detention to Health and Human Services prior to the children being settled with their families or in foster care.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:41 am to ForeverLurking
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Did Obama drive the kids to school himself? This is quite a reach...
no it isn't.
Obumma has purposefully imported these illegals and stashed them throughout the country, he is guilty as sin.
It's really that simple, even a moron like you should be able to see it.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:48 am to Champagne
quote:Do you really think that bringing people here with Ebola in a controlled environment poses any risk to the general public?
So, this begs the question: Why does the Obama Administration consider plans to import infected persons here to the USA for treatment?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:54 am to SoulGlo
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Ok, so Obama fricked us with a giant dildo crafted by Clinton and Bush. What else is new?
Did Obama have to frick us with the giant dildo? No.
Actually, he's bound by law.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:55 am to cwill
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Actually, he's bound by law.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:55 am to cwill
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Actually, he's bound by law.
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