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WWTOBD? One in the chamber edition
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:24 pm
One of my employees brought his .45 to work today to show me (show it off) in my office. He hands it to me in its holster and tells me it's not loaded. So I pull it out of its holster and eject the mag. Inspect, there's no rounds in the mag. I rack it back and a round comes flying out. I kind of lost my shite on the guy for handing me the loaded gun.
So WWTOBD, did I overreact?
I may have hurt his feelings a bit with a bit of harsh name calling.
So WWTOBD, did I overreact?
I may have hurt his feelings a bit with a bit of harsh name calling.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:27 pm to DLauw
Overreacted, gun was in the holster.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:28 pm to DLauw
No room to be stupid with guns.
Good job of checking. Hopefully he realizes how easily you could have messed up and never does it again.
People get far too overconfident in their gun handling and should be humbled when it happens.
Good job of checking. Hopefully he realizes how easily you could have messed up and never does it again.
People get far too overconfident in their gun handling and should be humbled when it happens.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:31 pm to DLauw
I would have lost my shite as well if that happened. You don't worry about feelings when someone's life is at stake. Maybe the arse chewing will make him more aware next time
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:32 pm to DLauw
No, he shouldn't hand over a loaded gun, proper procedure is to pull back slide when he hands it over. He'll learn a lesson cause of u
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:37 pm to DLauw
I can't say that you weren't justified in getting mad...but I don't know that calling him names was the most professional (or most intelligent) thing to do...
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:39 pm to Spankum
You haven't met dlauw then...
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:40 pm to Bama and Beer
He seems like a grumpy frick
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:41 pm to Spankum
So "you dumb motherfricker" = not professional. Check
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:41 pm to Spankum
Well what was really dangerous is the owner thought it was empty. That's a terrible accident waiting to happen, incredibly negligent, and worthy of the type of arse chewing you used to get as a teenager.
I NEVER hand somebody a gun without checking the chamber.
I NEVER hand somebody a gun without checking the chamber.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:41 pm to DLauw
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So WWTOBD, did I overreact?
No. I clear any weapon, personally, before I hand it to anyone else. That should be everyone's practice, 100% of the time. Combine that with keeping the muzzle in a safe direction and nobody gets shot on accident, ever, ever.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:42 pm to Chad504boy
so it's perfectly fine to carry a loaded gun in a holster but not to hand one to someone else. I agree there are safer ways to do it but it's not like he was spinning it on his finger with the safety off. You done right by not assuming that it was unloaded which is the very reason you double check "unloaded" guns.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:42 pm to DLauw
You did what you should have in inspecting it, good job. I probably would have just handed the mag and handgun back to him while keeping the round. Then I'd have said, now it's not loaded.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:43 pm to Bama and Beer
That was supposed to be an upvote. Fat thumbs
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:45 pm to 007mag
He told him it was empty.
And no, you should never hand somebody a loaded gun in that situation.
People are far too cavalier with gun handling.
And no, you should never hand somebody a loaded gun in that situation.
People are far too cavalier with gun handling.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:46 pm to 007mag
If you transfer a gun to show it off and not shoot someone, you should unload and clear it
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:57 pm to Chad504boy
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If you transfer a gun to show it off and not shoot someone, you should unload and clear it
This X 1,000,000. I will always say clear when handing it over as well for some reason.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:11 pm to MWP
What y'all say is mostly correct but I still think I'd prefer to have the gun handed to me enclosed in the holster than have the above mentioned greenhorn handling and checking an unloaded gun.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:37 pm to DLauw
Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
You did that. Good job.
Don't treat every weapon owner as if they know how to handle a weapon.
If you
and
then, yes, I would say you overreacted.
Next time remain calm and seize the opportunity to constructively pass your wisdom and extensive knowledge of firearms handling etiquette on to someone who may need it and would probably be appreciative of it.
If they didn't already, your employee now thinks of you as a dumbass and/or a huge pussy.
You did that. Good job.
Don't treat every weapon owner as if they know how to handle a weapon.
If you
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kind of lost my shite on the guy
and
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hurt his feelings a bit with a bit of harsh name calling.
then, yes, I would say you overreacted.
Next time remain calm and seize the opportunity to constructively pass your wisdom and extensive knowledge of firearms handling etiquette on to someone who may need it and would probably be appreciative of it.
If they didn't already, your employee now thinks of you as a dumbass and/or a huge pussy.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:53 pm to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
Glad you got your hands on it before he handed it to some dumb chick who takes possession thinking it isn't loaded, points it at something and pulls the trigger.
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