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re: Colin Powell on Bill Maher last night

Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:35 pm to
I agree with you that the presidential nominees have been moderate, but the culture of eliminating moderate Republican reps for tea party candidates, etc. is undeniable.

The culture of not working with Obama on anything (when Gingrich worked with Clinton a TON to achieve great things) is undeniable.

The Republican congress under Newt was fantastic.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:38 pm to
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The Republican congress under Newt was fantastic.


They had Clinton over a barrel, he had no choice to agree.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69491 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:41 pm to
Clinton was not nearly as liberal as Obama. I guarantee you that Obama would NOT have signed the '96 welfare reform.

To be fair, Americans in the 90s were far more conservative than Americans of today, so Clinton was simply acting on behalf of the populace. An explosion in dependent single mothers, economically vulnerable folks, and millennials who are super super liberal (young voters in 80s and 90s were conservative), has allowed the leftward shift.

Let us also not forget that Dole was not exactly popular with republican voters.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91219 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:46 pm to
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The culture of not working with Obama on anything (when Gingrich worked with Clinton a TON to achieve great things) is undeniable.



Clinton was also more willing to work across the aisle, especially when Republicans gained control of Congress. Obama can't lead or compromise, it's his way or no way and Republicans can't go along with that. They have passed numerous bills in the House that were compromises and the Senate won't put them to a vote. Democrats have been way more unwilling to compromise than Republicans have.

Obama wishes he was half the president that Bill Clinton was. If Republicans gain the Senate Obama won't compromise..he'll do everything he can via executive order and bitch and scream about Republicans in Congress not doing what he wants.
Posted by AuburnGusBus
Member since Oct 2013
16 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:46 pm to
Clinton worked with the pubs and Obama hasn't. The last time as a whole Americans were happy with the way the country was being ran was when both sides worked together. Obama has always been his way or no way. I think it is to late for him to try and work with the pubs now. Clinton will be much better at this, and I look forward to her doing so and bringing the country back together. The party has moved to the left too much for me, but I look forward to Clinton fixing that.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64679 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 1:16 pm to
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The Republican congress under Newt was fantastic.


You seem very nice.
And this is 100% wrong to any conservative/repub.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:07 pm to
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The culture of not working with Obama on anything (when Gingrich worked with Clinton a TON to achieve great things) is undeniable.
Really?

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Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28901 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:52 pm to
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The culture of not working with Obama on anything
Winston, your an all right guy but this is bullshite.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62730 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 4:15 pm to
Did he talk about all he Lies of Obamacare? Keep your Doc, average family saving $2500, keep your plan. Sometimes it isn't the Policy but when you outright lie about everything, people know what you are...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 12:00 am to
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The culture of not working with Obama on anything (when Gingrich worked with Clinton a TON to achieve great things) is undeniable.

Clinton worked with Gingrich. Name one major thing Obama compromised on with Congress.

Or just tell us when the last budget Obama submitted to Congress was submitted.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 12:01 am
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