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How bad is Derek Jeter's final season?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 9:57 pm
Possibly worst final full-time season for an all-time great ever?
.249 AVG
.298 OBP
.297 SLG
.595 OPS
70 OPS+
-.2 WAR
19 extra base hits/15 GIDP
Any other all-time greats have a final season worse than this? Say cutoff is last season with 120+ games.
.249 AVG
.298 OBP
.297 SLG
.595 OPS
70 OPS+
-.2 WAR
19 extra base hits/15 GIDP
Any other all-time greats have a final season worse than this? Say cutoff is last season with 120+ games.
15
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:04 pm to 1ranter1
Lowest OPS for ANY player in baseball for the month of August
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:05 pm to 1ranter1
WGAF?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:10 pm to 1ranter1
Mantle & Mays final seasons were bad
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:17 pm to 1ranter1
i dislike jeter as much as anyone on the planet, but every player's final season is awful when not using cattle steroids.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:28 pm to 1ranter1
He's ran out of gas these last few months.
And tbh, I think he's kind of checked out mentally. He's just ready for it to be over. You can only motivate yourself so much when the team is so god damn bad and there's almost no chance you can make the playoffs.
The last few weeks have been really rough on him, and he showed his frustration for the first time tonight. I just wish it was over. It's painful.
And tbh, I think he's kind of checked out mentally. He's just ready for it to be over. You can only motivate yourself so much when the team is so god damn bad and there's almost no chance you can make the playoffs.
The last few weeks have been really rough on him, and he showed his frustration for the first time tonight. I just wish it was over. It's painful.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:28 pm to 1ranter1
I'd go with Ron Santo, who played 117 games because of injury- I know he misses your 120 game cut off, but not by leaps and bounds. The difference in Career WAR between them is exactly how much worse Santo was in his last year, otherwise they'd be identical.
.221 BA
.293 OBP
.299 SLG
.591 OPS
-1.6 WAR
18 XBH/16 GDP
And Jeter at least contributed 9 steals. None for Santo.
.221 BA
.293 OBP
.299 SLG
.591 OPS
-1.6 WAR
18 XBH/16 GDP
And Jeter at least contributed 9 steals. None for Santo.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:30 pm to 1ranter1
He's almost 40 years old and he's been in the league almost 20 years. You really expected him to do anything worth a shite this year?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:36 pm to 1ranter1
Biggio's was pretty bad.
shite, Ripken had a negative WAR his final year. They're 40+ years old, what do you expect. Sucks that he's hurting his team making a push for the postseason though.
shite, Ripken had a negative WAR his final year. They're 40+ years old, what do you expect. Sucks that he's hurting his team making a push for the postseason though.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:44 pm to 1ranter1
All 12 times I've watched NYY this year he's gone 0-4 and grounded meekly into a killer DP
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:53 pm to 1ranter1
Biggio wasn't quite that bad but still a pretty bad season from a guy that owned most franchise records.
.251 AVG
.285 OBP
.381 SLG
.666 OPS
71 OPS+
-2.1 WAR
.251 AVG
.285 OBP
.381 SLG
.666 OPS
71 OPS+
-2.1 WAR
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:01 pm to 1ranter1
Also, Jeter's swing made him due for a quick decline at the end of his career.
His season two years ago was amazing, all things considered. However, when you heard scouts saying in spring training this year that his bat speed was way down, this was inevitable. He managed to hover around .275 for a lot of the season, which was pretty amazing in itself.
He's got an inside-out swing that revolved around him driving the ball the other way, even on inside pitches. If you don't have bat speed, that's almost impossible to do. When pitchers missed out over the plate (especially up in the zone), he was able to hit the ball hard to the opposite field this year. But if pitchers ran him inside or kept it low and away, he really struggled (as expected).
He's never really hit the ball hard to left in the last five or six seasons. Now that his hands have slowed down, he's had to cheat a little bit and has found himself out in front of a lot of pitches, resulting in a lot of slow rollers to the left side.
It's hard to make an adjustment in a swing you've had for your entire life. Everyone loses bat speed, but it's affected him a lot more than others.
His season two years ago was amazing, all things considered. However, when you heard scouts saying in spring training this year that his bat speed was way down, this was inevitable. He managed to hover around .275 for a lot of the season, which was pretty amazing in itself.
He's got an inside-out swing that revolved around him driving the ball the other way, even on inside pitches. If you don't have bat speed, that's almost impossible to do. When pitchers missed out over the plate (especially up in the zone), he was able to hit the ball hard to the opposite field this year. But if pitchers ran him inside or kept it low and away, he really struggled (as expected).
He's never really hit the ball hard to left in the last five or six seasons. Now that his hands have slowed down, he's had to cheat a little bit and has found himself out in front of a lot of pitches, resulting in a lot of slow rollers to the left side.
It's hard to make an adjustment in a swing you've had for your entire life. Everyone loses bat speed, but it's affected him a lot more than others.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 12:56 am to 1ranter1
I've checked out on the baseball season, have they been playing Jeter at short?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:52 pm to 1ranter1
Chipper>Jeter
Posted on 9/17/14 at 5:43 pm to 1ranter1
It's still baseball seaon???
Posted on 9/17/14 at 5:46 pm to 1ranter1
Slightly better than Matt dominguez.
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